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Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES 350
#154 of 239 Re: 2009 Toyota Avalon vs. 2009 Lexus ES 350 [hanscua]
by amauhry
Sep 19, 2008 (6:31 am)
Man, this man's in a mission!
Loved the way you made your point. You're damn good.
Amaury
'08 Limited
#155 of 239 Re: 2009 Toyota Avalon vs. 2009 Lexus ES 350 [hanscua]
by popsavalon
Sep 19, 2008 (7:12 am)
If I wanted power tilt and telescope that badly, I would just spend the extra 25 grand and buy the Lexus! Why be uncomfortable while you are driving down the road.
#156 of 239 Re: 2009 Toyota Avalon vs. 2009 Lexus ES 350 [hanscua]
by fin
Sep 19, 2008 (7:30 am)
Toyota... Are you listening......?....
#157 of 239 Preaching to the converted
by lexpaul
Sep 21, 2008 (8:41 pm)
I wonder how someone could preach the virtues of the Avalon Limited to a Lexus forum, it's funny by stuff happens. The Avi and 350 are targeted at two different types of buyers. The Avi is a nice vehicle and I considered buying one myself and I know about all the features trust me, but what sold me on the 350 was its size and looks AND features. I simply don't want a big car. If I considered anything other than the 350 it would probably be a 08 or 09 CTS. The 350 looks better and I like how it drives. Now that is subjective, because someone else may come along and say, "Hey the Avi is the greatest car since the Model T" So, lets appreciate that no matter what, some folks will relish vanilla ice cream while others will relish strawberry and move on. Most of the folks who buy the 350 have already considered the Avi so you're preaching to the converted (converted to 350), Go to a Chrysler 300 forum and try to convert them.....
#158 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [lexpaul]
by praz
Sep 21, 2008 (9:15 pm)
I am in mid-30's and never considered Avalon. With 350, Lexus has targeted mid-30's while Avalon still tagets at 50+, my opinion. I don't think people will shop Avalon after driving ES, totally different car.
#159 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [lexpaul]
by pat
Sep 22, 2008 (2:19 am)
Actually, this discussion is part of the ES 350 group and the Avalon group. It's not specifically a "Lexus forum."
#160 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [praz]
by tjc78
Sep 22, 2008 (5:54 am)
I don't think people will shop Avalon after driving ES, totally different car
Really? Same engine, same frame, mostly the same suspension...... They drive similar, the size is the biggest difference. IMO if you need the size go for the Avalon, if you like the smaller vehicle go for the ES at a small price premium.
#161 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [tjc78]
by praz
Sep 22, 2008 (6:27 am)
Camry, Avalon, ES, Highlander, Venza, RX share same engine, transmission(next model year for crossover's), etc. Are they all the same, no, it all depends on need, taste and $$$. ES stands out and is much better than the Camry or Avalon, go figure. Also, if the customer is less than 50 years and choose Avalon over ES for size than they have serious health issues called obesity.
#162 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [praz]
by texases
Sep 22, 2008 (7:44 am)
"Also, if the customer is less than 50 years and choose Avalon over ES for size than they have serious health issues called obesity. "
Nice gratuitous insult. Not needed. I've looked at both, currently drive an ES300, and the ES350 is not acceptible because of the compromises made to styling. The rear door opening has been squashed to go after the 4-door coupe look. I want to take friends and clients out without apolgizing for the accomodations.
#163 of 239 Re: Preaching to the converted [texases]
by praz
Sep 22, 2008 (7:59 am)
I am sorry if my comments has offended anyone, I did not intend to do that.