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Sedans Lexus ES Toyota Avalon Limited vs. Lexus ES 350 Comparison
194 messages, Last post on Apr 24, 2009 at 3:24 AM
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Replying to: texases (Sep 16, 2008 8:24 am) Here’s another related case: One of my co-worker has an ’08 BMW X5, 4.8i. The compression ratio for this engine is 10.5:1. The Owner’s Manual states that “premium unleaded gasoline with a minimum octane rating of 91 is REQUIRED.” On the other hand, my ’08 Avi, with a compression ratio of 10.8:1, has no premium fuel requirements and runs extremely well on regular with no engine knocking whatsoever. By compression ratio alone, this does not make sense; my avy should be gulping premium too. Seems like the Japs are beating the Germans in this area (jeje). Amaury '08 Limited
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Replying to: amauhry (Sep 16, 2008 11:35 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Sep 16, 2008 11:35 am) |
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Replying to: tjc78 (Sep 16, 2008 11:42 am) Amaury '08 Limited |
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Replying to: amauhry (Sep 16, 2008 1:55 pm)  See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com The 2GR-FE engine from the Avalon is the same thing as what is installed in the ES350 the slightly higher HP rating in the ES is from the requirement of premium fuel. Here is a shot of the owners manual from the '06 Avalo, showing my point: "for improved vehicle performance...."
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Replying to: amauhry (Sep 16, 2008 11:35 am) How do you compare your co worker x5 with your avalon? X5 feels a lot more specially doesn't it? Of course you have to pay a price for that 
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Replying to: tjc78 (Sep 17, 2008 4:27 am) ----- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ One of the engines has a tweak that the other doesn’t. In very simple terms, horsepower depends on the thermal efficiency of the engine. Fuel type alone won’t increase this efficiency. Amaury '08 Limited
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Replying to: amauhry (Sep 17, 2008 9:31 am) "Ratings achieved using the required premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 or higher. If premium fuel is not used, performance will decrease" What does that tell you? Do you really think Toyota would tweak this engine for a lousy 4 HP? The "tweaked" version of this engine is the 2GR-FSE which is direct injected and used in the IS/GS and makes a little over 300HP. |
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I'm planning to buy or lease a Toyota Avalon Limited in the very future, which would feel luxury like the Lexus ES 350. The Lexus ES 350 has a power tilt and telescopic steering column and the Toyota Avalon does not have a power tilt and telescopic steering column. Before I buy or lease a Toyota Avalon Limited in the very future, I'm requesting the Toyota Avalon Limited to offer a power tilt and telescopic steering column for the late availability 2009 model year available at Toyota dealers by October, November, or December of this year 2008 so I can buy or lease a 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited with a power tilt and telescopic steering column and feel luxury like the Lexus ES 350 rather than having the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited still offer a manual tilt and telescopic steering column. If the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited comes with rain-sensing variable intermittent windshield wipers, heated and ventilated front seats, power rear sunshade, wood grain style leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob, wood grain style interior, perforated leather seats, steering wheel mounted audio and climate controls, vehicle stability control with traction control and brake assist, 2-way driver's side memory systems, 8-way power driver's seat with power lumbar support, optitron meters with tachometer, speedometer, coolant temperature gauge, fuel gauge, and digital odometer with twin trip meters, smart key system with push button start, JBL synthesis AM/FM stereo with 6-disc in dash changer with hands free phone via bluetooth, optional dynamic laser cruise control, optional 8-way power passenger seat with power lumbar support, power windows with driver and passenger auto-touch up/down, power door locks with anti lockout feature, power moonroof, chrome outside door handles, etc., then the 2009 Toyota Avalon Limited should come with power tilt and telescopic steering column rather than a manual tilt and telescopic steering column.
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Replying to: hanscua (Sep 18, 2008 7:57 pm) Loved the way you made your point. You're damn good. Amaury '08 Limited |
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