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#122 of 190 Re: Rusty Brake Lines on 1500 GMC Sierra (2000) [obyone] by joe197 Jan 11, 2009 (11:34 am)
Replying to: obyone (Oct 05, 2008 7:34 pm) If we don,t complain, we will not get any help. I have just replaced all the brake lines on my 2002 GMC 1500 pickup with 110,000 miles. Its is not right that these lines are rusting out so quickly. As with the recall of the rotor sensors GM has made another desiscion to same a buck at our expense by using cheap tubing on the brake lines, with the sensor recall, GM refunded any money that had been spent on repairs prior to the recall. That is why you and all the rest of us should complain to consumer affairs. Who knows if there is a recall it might even save a life. Think, how many people out there have not a clue about the need to replace their lines, before failure.
#123 of 190 Re: 2001 Silverado 1500 Brake Pulsation [sweetlb] by c5nut Feb 03, 2009 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: sweetlb (Sep 07, 2007 1:09 pm) Was wondering where you were with your brake problem. Your situation sounds very much like mine with my 2000. I haven't tried pulling the fuse yet, that's next. Do you know which components needed cleaning?
#124 of 190 Rusted Brake lines, 2003 GMC 50K miles by barnowl3 Mar 07, 2009 (9:58 am)
2003 GMC Sierra HD. Located in upstate NY, so we do get snow and salt. This is an 'HD' truck with the snow plow package, but that is apparently meaningless to GM. Last night, a tractor trailer hit his brakes and my 5000# GMC should have been able to stop quicker. Truck brakes went soft, but luckily I avoided a collision. Turns out brake lines are very rusty and now leaking. I have never in 30 years seen corrosion 'grow' so quickly on brake lines on even 10 year old 100K mile cars and I've lived here all my life.My truck is only 6 yrs old with only 50K miles, this is amazing. Replies to this message: ttaupier1 (Mar 09, 2009 5:41 am) barnowl3 (Mar 09, 2009 4:47 pm) barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 3:56 pm) and 1 more... ttaupier1 (Mar 09, 2009 5:44 am) gpl88 (Jun 05, 2009 9:56 am)
#125 of 190 Re: Rusted Brake lines, 2003 GMC 50K miles [barnowl3] by ttaupier1 Mar 09, 2009 (5:41 am)
Replying to: barnowl3 (Mar 07, 2009 9:58 am) Hey BarnOwl,   A buddy of mine has a 2000 HD Chevy, last week he was plowing and almost lost his rid while plowing. There is a break kit available that has all the lines all measured and bent. he called last friday and the price was about $300 and about 2 weeks away... My past message #99 has some other details... here is the place were we ordered the replacement lines that are stainless steel... LOL >> a lot of good that does all of us owners now... i would have gladly paid the $300 at the time of purchase to know my kids wife and i would be safe from this type of failure...   1) http://www.classictube.com/products.asp   good luck guy Replies to this message: barnowl3 (Mar 09, 2009 4:47 pm) barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 3:56 pm) barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 4:40 pm)
#126 of 190 Re: Rusted Brake lines, 2003 GMC 50K miles [barnowl3] by ttaupier1 Mar 09, 2009 (5:44 am)
Replying to: barnowl3 (Mar 07, 2009 9:58 am) I urge everyone that has a GM truck with rusted brake lines to goto http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/gm_chev_1500.html and file a complaint. Consumer Affairs will evaluate and see if a class action suite is in order. Make it happen complain now! Replies to this message: gpl88 (Jun 05, 2009 9:56 am)
#127 of 190 Re: Rusted Brake lines, 2003 GMC 50K miles [ttaupier1] by barnowl3 Mar 09, 2009 (4:47 pm)
Replying to: ttaupier1 (Mar 09, 2009 5:41 am) Tttaupier1, Thanks for the great tip. I knew the SS was available for older cars but did not realize they had them for the newer vehicles. I already dropped the truck off at a local shop, since I don't have the time to do this myself right now or wait for SS. I sure would have gone that route though if I had ordered them in advance.   A note to all on bleeding brakes on these trucks. The brake booster ( Not sure of all are the same) is actually part of the power steering system. There is special bleeding procedure on the PS steering system which does wonders for the brakes. My PS line corroded last year and when I followed the PS bleeding procedure,my brakes were better than ever. Much better than new in fact. We noticed the brakes sucked on the 2003 as compared to the 2000 and the bleeding process made a huge difference.. The process is documented on those online repair manuals. I used Alldata for my manual. Replies to this message: barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 3:56 pm) barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 4:40 pm)
#128 of 190 Re: stainless/firm brake pedal,bleeding booster by barnowl3 Mar 09, 2009 (4:52 pm)
Replying to: bob227 (Sep 08, 2008 7:17 am) A note to all on bleeding brakes on these trucks. The brake booster ( Not sure of all are the same) is actually part of the power steering system. There is a special bleeding procedure on the PS steering system which does wonders for the brakes. My PS line corroded last year and when I followed the PS bleeding procedure,my brakes were better than ever. Much better than new in fact. We noticed the brakes sucked on the 2003 as compared to the 2000 and the bleeding process made a huge difference.. The process is documented on those online repair manuals. I used Alldata for my manual.
#129 of 190 Re: 2002 Silverado Brake Problems [remjrmiller] by barnowl3 Mar 09, 2009 (5:08 pm)
Replying to: remjrmiller (Aug 15, 2008 12:29 pm) "Dealer blames it on vehicle sitting for extended times (which it does but on pavement)."   This dealer should be strapped to the front of my truck ( it too has the rusty lines and NO brakes). Let me see, it is work truck and I can't leave it outside!!!! Do these people even hear themselves speak? I have been a GM person all my life and they have finally lost me. You would think after like 12 warranty repairs, they would give me call and learn! Instead, all they care about is if the dealer treated me well!   Here are the other lines that rust out early. Mine is an '03 with only 50K in the Northeast.. If you have the engine oil cooler option, that line rots out in like 3 years and you lose your engine oil .... real fast. After 5 years the fuel lines corrode where the nylon line and o-ring meet the steel line, causing a fine fuel spray giving your truck a fine orange glow if you light a match ( recommended). Oh yeah, I almost forgot the power steering line. The only problem there is that you might lose your steering ( best to time that failure with the brakes for some real excitement). My tranny lines should be good for a few more years since they were all replaced under warranty, since they all seeped. Guess 'fluids and materials engineering' is not a required course for engineers at GMI.   Sorry about the rant, but come on, it was supposed to be a truck.
#130 of 190 Re: Rusty steel brake line alternative by barnowl3 Mar 10, 2009 (3:56 pm)
Replying to: barnowl3 (Mar 09, 2009 4:47 pm) Just got my truck (2003 GMC 2500 HD) back from my independent shop. They used a copper nickel alloy brake line. I included a link below from a search. It is easy to work with and bend and does not rust. Did not have to wait for GM lines ( which are obviously poorly engineered trash). $70 for the tubing and $296 for ~ 4 hrs of labor to replace both front lines. I'll do them all eventually. These apparently seal better too, which sometimes can be a problem with stainless. Great alternative compared to some of the ridiculous GM dealer prices above. Also note that some car manufacturers are using these lines.   http://www.fedhillusa.com/   To further my distrust in any fluid line GM produces: Shop found that my PS cooler and line was leaking. I have one more rusty PS line left to replace now. One of the tranny lines is seeping again ( these were all replaced under warranty already once). If GM would simply correct their design/material flaws it wouldn't be that bad, but who wants to replace their fluid lines 2-3 times, simply because they want to keep a truck for 10 years.   If anyone has any alternatives to the PS, tranny and brake rotors, please share them. Replies to this message: barnowl3 (Mar 10, 2009 4:40 pm)
#131 of 190 by ldsokol Mar 10, 2009 (4:36 pm)
After GM tried to do all the repairs on my truck they finally did a repurchase. Unfortunatley I'm not allowed to tell any details, the problems with the brakes where never resolved after 2 years.

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