Last post on Mar 07, 2011 at 3:52 PM
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Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#775 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [imidazol97]
Jun 10, 2010 (7:09 am)
good try twisting my words though!
I think you just referred nicely to what I said!
so much = so many (multiple) problems! and he did have a list of things wrong with his Camry! I was referring to how many problems he had!
#776 of 804 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord
Jun 16, 2010 (2:38 am)
OK, I'm on the hunt for a new car, will be leasing, and it needs to be affordable, so I'm looking at the basic models. I test drove a '10 Accord LX-P vs. '11 Camry LE. I drove the Accord first, and son of a gun I smashed my knee on the upper dashboard getting in. That was yesterday, and it's still swollen today. I realized that the Accord sits lower, but the opening space getting in is tighter. That alone, might discount me from getting this car. Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it gets better from ownership. I also don't like the only 3 star rating on side impact protection for back seat riders. I have 3 kids, I want them as protected as me. It drove nice though, at times I wished the transmission would pick a lower gear and shift faster. I have a lot of hills where I live, but top speed in my community is 45mph, so I don't need a fast car, just responsive.
Next I drove the Camry, and was pleasantly surprised. I thought it drove a little better, engine seemed more responsive, maybe due to the 6 speed transmission. It is very isolated and quiet which I like, especially compared to my somewhat loud '06 Subaru Impreza. I preferred the interior of the Camry to the Accord as well. ANd you do sit a bit higher, I think for regular every day driving that is preferred. I don't care about lap times, I won't be competing in F1 with this car.
I have driven a 2010 Malibu LTZ as a rental car, and thought it was pretty good. Spent 4 hours in it late at night beating a bad snow storm home. It has a different feel from the Camry as well, but a solid car. Haven't driven one recently though, and I have no idea if lease deals are abundant.
But between Camry and Accord, I'm leaning Camry right now which surprised me a little. I have a Honda minivan (had a Sienna too) and preferred that to the Sienna, though both good. I have to replace the Odyssey next year with somehting new.
Long winded post is long.
#777 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [irg]
Jun 16, 2010 (2:52 am)
Driving a rental Malibu during a harsh time trying to beat a snow storm and you thought it was pretty good, I'd suggest at least driving a brand new one at your local dealer without the pressure of trying to beat a storm late at night. To me, you tested a rental (which sometimes they get beat to death by people who don't care as they are just renting it) and liked it, that was the best test you could give a car.
#778 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [dmathews3]
Jun 16, 2010 (10:44 am)
True, I probably should. I do recall the Malibu sitting lower, like the Accord. Not as much of fan of that. The other part I didn't mention, while I got home safely, the day following the storm when I went to return it, I found it got stuck pretty easily - again I think because it's a bit lower to the ground. Not a deal breaker though. I find the C pillar a bit of a blind spot. Not sure how the Malibu leases out though. Tough to beat Camry/Accord with high residual value. I think that still hurts Chevrolet to some degree.
#779 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [irg]
Jun 16, 2010 (1:34 pm)
Can't comment on the Honda but it used to be that the Camry sold used for a lot higher than a Chevy but there were other things that most people didn't figure into that factor. One, for the most part you could buy a Chevy at or near invoice where as befoe Toyota was caught with all the shoddy cars they used to sell for a whole lot more than a same model Chevy. Say Camry and Malibu could be a couple thou difference on a loaded car. Figure that 2K left in the bank for a few years and I bet the difference at the point of sale a few years down the road were close or in some cases I wouldn't be surprised if the Chevy ended up worth more. How things will equal out in say 3 or 4 years on the current Toyota products is still to be seen but it has been posted in the media that the value of used Toyota's has dropped quite a bit and I for one like many others are NOT convinced that Toyota has fixed everything. Only reason they aren't still on the front pages is the oil spill has become number 1. Even the new G.M. is still out selling Toyota here and that is with all the dropping of their other brands like Pontiac, Hummer.
#780 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [dmathews3]
Jun 16, 2010 (4:02 pm)
I know car pricing is somewhat local, but I've never seen a comparably equipped Malibu advertised for $2K under a Camry. The Malibu promo model is usually a less equipped basic LS model. I don't think Camry resale is tanking as much as you may think. Used Camry's seem to still be moving fairly quickly off the dealer lots. Remember, you can drive a well equipped, brand new Camry LE off the lot for under $20K. A relative who drives around a lot for his job got a new Malibu last year to replace his Camry. He likes them both and says the Malibu has better seats, but he thought the Camry road a bit nicer, so it was kind of a trade-off.
He might also look at Fusion and Altima, but if he prefers Camry over Accord, they may not be what he likes better.
#781 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [berri]
Jun 17, 2010 (3:21 am)
The Altima should be on my list too. I would include the Subaru Legacy as well, but none to drive at the local dealer - not sure I like it's styling either, and the gas mileage suffers some, but the awd is nice where I live.
As far as the Malibu goes, I'm interested in the LT1 model, to get the better transmission. I'll see what the local dealer has, but they are definitely harder to find around here where I live. The back seat is not as generous either, which may be an issue as my 3 kids get bigger, but probably not a deal breaker. My budget is really tight for this car (I have to replace the Odyssey in April too) so unfortunately I have to compare apples to apples, and look for a low monthly payment. The Camry is being offered at $179/mo with $1599 down, plus tax. I can probably get it lower than that too, and I may have some equity when I return my Subaru (4 year lease, 48k miles/year, I only have 32k on it). If I can get a Malibu for a similar rate, I'd be interested, if not I pass.
The Altima is offering $199/mo not sure what the fine print says yet, haven't driven one yet to compare. Mayb this Friday. I'm not sure why I haven't looked at the Fusion, lease deals on it don't seem very good, but I've heard it's a good car, never quite liked the styling, but that's subjective.
I still have some test driving to do, but bottom line for $ dictates a lot here.
#784 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [irg]
Jun 26, 2010 (5:04 pm)
All Malibus get the 6-speed next year (2011 model), even the base LS.