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Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#770 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [vanman1]
Jun 08, 2010 (4:23 am)
I've bought many cars in my days and most were General Motors. Although they made crappy cars not too many years back, I've had good luck with them. In 2004 I bought a Toyota to find out what the hype was all about. Well, that Toyota Camry I bought was one of the worst car I ever owned. That car was always hard starting, with a noisy transmission, bad wheel bearings, a horn smaller than a motorcycle with the sound to go with it. To me the car was a piece of crap.
The God like status Toyota has enjoyed is a joke. That status came about by Consumer Reports who is now having a problem holding on to that status because the cat is out of the bag.
I will never buy another Toyota!!
#771 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [jray4]
Jun 09, 2010 (6:59 am)
Yeah, that is why the entire Ford line-up is on the CR recommended list for the last few years, because they have such a bias against the American companies and love Toyota and the foreign ones better give me a break
Once Ford made quality products, which they finally have in the last few years, there status and recommendation by CR rose accordingly, as it should; GM on the other hand is years behind Ford with some models recommended while others are still on the crap heap!
Your the first person I've heard have so much trouble with a Camry product; I have numerous family and friends who have had multiple Toyota products with absolutely little to no problems, except once they got up to the 9 or 10 year mark when things started to go and had to be replaced!
#772 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [smarty666]
Jun 09, 2010 (9:17 am)
He isn't the first person who has had problems with Toyota. I suggest you take your mouse and click on the Toyota Camry sites here and you will find there are one or two others with problems. OK, maybe hundreds.
#773 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [dmathews3]
Jun 09, 2010 (4:05 pm)
If you read carefully what I wrote, I did not say he was the first person I ever heard have a problem with a Toyota product, but had a running list of so many multiple ones over a short period of time.
#774 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [smarty666]
Jun 09, 2010 (6:18 pm)
>If you read carefully what I wrote, I did not say he was the first person I ever heard have a problem with a Toyota product,
That's not true. Actually you did say he was the first person you've heard have so much trouble with a Camry product.
"Your (sic) the first person I've heard have so much trouble with a Camry product:"
#775 of 804 Re: 08 malibu catalytic converter issues [imidazol97]
Jun 10, 2010 (7:09 am)
good try twisting my words though!
I think you just referred nicely to what I said!
so much = so many (multiple) problems! and he did have a list of things wrong with his Camry! I was referring to how many problems he had!
#776 of 804 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord
Jun 16, 2010 (2:38 am)
OK, I'm on the hunt for a new car, will be leasing, and it needs to be affordable, so I'm looking at the basic models. I test drove a '10 Accord LX-P vs. '11 Camry LE. I drove the Accord first, and son of a gun I smashed my knee on the upper dashboard getting in. That was yesterday, and it's still swollen today. I realized that the Accord sits lower, but the opening space getting in is tighter. That alone, might discount me from getting this car. Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it gets better from ownership. I also don't like the only 3 star rating on side impact protection for back seat riders. I have 3 kids, I want them as protected as me. It drove nice though, at times I wished the transmission would pick a lower gear and shift faster. I have a lot of hills where I live, but top speed in my community is 45mph, so I don't need a fast car, just responsive.
Next I drove the Camry, and was pleasantly surprised. I thought it drove a little better, engine seemed more responsive, maybe due to the 6 speed transmission. It is very isolated and quiet which I like, especially compared to my somewhat loud '06 Subaru Impreza. I preferred the interior of the Camry to the Accord as well. ANd you do sit a bit higher, I think for regular every day driving that is preferred. I don't care about lap times, I won't be competing in F1 with this car.
I have driven a 2010 Malibu LTZ as a rental car, and thought it was pretty good. Spent 4 hours in it late at night beating a bad snow storm home. It has a different feel from the Camry as well, but a solid car. Haven't driven one recently though, and I have no idea if lease deals are abundant.
But between Camry and Accord, I'm leaning Camry right now which surprised me a little. I have a Honda minivan (had a Sienna too) and preferred that to the Sienna, though both good. I have to replace the Odyssey next year with somehting new.
Long winded post is long.
#777 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [irg]
Jun 16, 2010 (2:52 am)
Driving a rental Malibu during a harsh time trying to beat a snow storm and you thought it was pretty good, I'd suggest at least driving a brand new one at your local dealer without the pressure of trying to beat a storm late at night. To me, you tested a rental (which sometimes they get beat to death by people who don't care as they are just renting it) and liked it, that was the best test you could give a car.
#778 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [dmathews3]
Jun 16, 2010 (10:44 am)
True, I probably should. I do recall the Malibu sitting lower, like the Accord. Not as much of fan of that. The other part I didn't mention, while I got home safely, the day following the storm when I went to return it, I found it got stuck pretty easily - again I think because it's a bit lower to the ground. Not a deal breaker though. I find the C pillar a bit of a blind spot. Not sure how the Malibu leases out though. Tough to beat Camry/Accord with high residual value. I think that still hurts Chevrolet to some degree.
#779 of 804 Re: 2011 Camry vs. 2010 Accord [irg]
Jun 16, 2010 (1:34 pm)
Can't comment on the Honda but it used to be that the Camry sold used for a lot higher than a Chevy but there were other things that most people didn't figure into that factor. One, for the most part you could buy a Chevy at or near invoice where as befoe Toyota was caught with all the shoddy cars they used to sell for a whole lot more than a same model Chevy. Say Camry and Malibu could be a couple thou difference on a loaded car. Figure that 2K left in the bank for a few years and I bet the difference at the point of sale a few years down the road were close or in some cases I wouldn't be surprised if the Chevy ended up worth more. How things will equal out in say 3 or 4 years on the current Toyota products is still to be seen but it has been posted in the media that the value of used Toyota's has dropped quite a bit and I for one like many others are NOT convinced that Toyota has fixed everything. Only reason they aren't still on the front pages is the oil spill has become number 1. Even the new G.M. is still out selling Toyota here and that is with all the dropping of their other brands like Pontiac, Hummer.