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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Kelly blue book [bvdj84] by butch100
Jul 14, 2009 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 13, 2009 4:58 pm)

I apologize for the personal remark, it was uncalled for. I guess the line " GM's don't start like a dependable Honda on a cold day" sorta ticked me off, but still no excuse. I will remain civil or remove my self from the board.
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Re: bvdj84 [butch100] by elroy5
Jul 14, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 14, 2009 4:25 pm)

Just pointing out that the initial purchase price difference is not the lone factor in which car is cheaper to own. I don't think the new Accords can be stolen so easily (immobilizer system), so if they cost more to insure than a Malibu, it's because the value is higher. I think you get what you pay for, then it's up to you to make it worth what you paid for it. How long you keep the car, and what condition it's in when you do decide to sell it, are the major determining factors, in how much any car will cost to own. So I buy the car I want, then try to make it worth what I paid for it. If I subtract my last Accord's selling price from the purchase price, it cost me $1000/year. I can live with that. I hope to do at least as well with this one. Paying $4,000 less for a car doesn't help me, if I don't like it enough to keep it for 10 or more years.
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Re: bvdj84 [elroy5] by imidazol97
Jul 14, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 14, 2009 6:12 pm)

>so if they cost more to insure than a Malibu, it's because the value is higher
 
I'm still hearing justificiation of a higher price for a car because, well, just because...
 
If a car costs more to insure it's most likely that it has a higher risk to the insurance company for theft, accident, and other kinds of damage.
That price has NOTHING to do with a car's being better than another car or worse than another car.
 
If someone wants to justify their likes for a car and being gouged by dealers in this area (your area may be different) then that's okay with me. I just don't want to hear forever that somehow that makes the car better than another car. I expect others to respect my choice of vehicles.
 
>(immobilizer system),
 
Other cars have theft deterrent systems that keep the engine from running also. Honda isn't unique in any way.
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Re: bvdj84 [imidazol97] by elroy5
Jul 14, 2009 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 14, 2009 6:35 pm)

Stands to reason. If a car sells for more, and you can sell it after 5 years for more, it will cost more to replace. Then simple logic says it will also cost more to insure. I don't think theft has anything to do with it. Did I say Immobilizer was only for Accords? I only said they aren't as easy to steal as they once were. Not a problem where I live anyway.
 
Buy the car YOU want, and I will buy the car I want. We should both be happy then, right?
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Re: Kelly blue book [butch100] by thegraduate
Jul 14, 2009 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 14, 2009 4:36 pm)

I'm a Honda driver, and don't particularly care for the Malibu, but I can certainly tell they've come a long way in ten years, and have every right to be directly compared with Accord and Camry.
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Re: bvdj84 [elroy5] by bvdj84
Jul 15, 2009 (3:14 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 pm)

Isn't that the truth. Honestly, if the car you really want is a few $1k more, and it means you will keep it longer, be happier... Then get the car. Of course within reason.
There is a thing called $$.
 
I know, that when I look a new lease. I will look at what I want. Slow down and research, I am really focusing on a fun and fast engine.
 
But, for the same payment I paid on my 06 Accord SE lease, I have loaded GM car that has all the features, except for a V6. Features, that can be found on a $30k Passat I looked at. Perhaps a few more features. So that is good! Remote start comes in handy in the winter.
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Re: bvdj84 [elroy5] by imidazol97
Jul 15, 2009 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 pm)

>so if they cost more to insure than a Malibu, it's because the value is higher.
>Then simple logic says it will also cost more to insure
 
But that's still not complete. The insurance cost represents the probability of loss to the insurance company. Factors such as the driver's age, driving record individually and for a group, color of car, equipment on the car, and cost to repair are examples of factors in the actuarial prediction for insurance costs. I.E., if Civic coupes are owned by people who are more interested in racing from stoplights, driving at speeds far above the limit, driving carelessly, and the repair costs for damage from relatively minor hits are high then the cost of ownership for the vehicle will be higher than someone owning another brand of car quite capable of going from A to B but the mind set of the owners of the second brand doesn't lean toward the race car mentality.
 
A higher insurance cost on an equivalent car doesn't mean it's worth more.
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Re: Kelly blue book [butch100] by dmathews3
Jul 15, 2009 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 14, 2009 4:36 pm)

You just have to remember why most people are here, it's because they are either reseaching a purchase or have problems with their vehicle. Most owners are happy with their vehicles and are out driving them not hanging around here looking for something to go wrong.
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Re: bvdj84 [imidazol97] by elroy5
Jul 15, 2009 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 15, 2009 3:52 am)

But that's still not complete. The insurance cost represents the probability of loss to the insurance company. Factors such as the driver's age, driving record individually and for a group, color of car, equipment on the car, and cost to repair are examples of factors in the actuarial prediction for insurance costs.
 
I thought we were talking about why the Accord would cost more to insure than the Malibu. I assumed we were talking about the same driver, same driving record, same color, same equipment, etc.
 I think if you bought a Malibu that cost $23k or an Accord that cost $23k the insurance cost would be the same, because the value would be the same.
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Re: bvdj84 [elroy5] by butch100
Jul 15, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 15, 2009 1:20 pm)

It's not that both cars cost XXXK, some models are much more sought after by crooks. Malibu's generally won't end up in a chop shop I guess their parts just are not in demand..

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