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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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4-bangers by vanman1
Jun 23, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Lighter weight over the front wheels = more agile handling; plus, better availability of a stick-shift. Those two things combined make driving much more fun.
 
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No fun if it has no power. They are fine for compacts but in a mid-size loaded up, forget it!
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Re: 4-bangers [vanman1] by thegraduate
Jun 23, 2009 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jun 23, 2009 6:37 pm)

0-60 in the low 7s doesn't happen in cars with "no power."
 
And, loaded up, I'm typically not carving corners; I'm cruising down the highway.
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Re: 4-bangers by bvdj84
Jun 24, 2009 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 23, 2009 8:26 pm)

I miss my Accord 4cyl engine. It was refined and smooth, and quick. Not a race car, but it got the job done. There are many other cars that offer a much better, updated engine than the 4cyl GM engine. Read the reviews, it will show much more engine issues and observation. I wonder why several people at my dealership want out of their GM cars, all with 4cyl's? We happened to have the same salesmen, and both there asking him to get out. Both with similar observations.
 
Ironically enough, my salesmen, a GM fan, and leased a C-Class mercedes. He was the one who said that he wouldn't drive a foreign car. His mother also got a 09 Jetta. He loves them now! Night and day!
 
The Malibu is nice, its pretty, but its guts are really no different, or any real reason to get too excited. At this point, a company should atleast grasp the concept of a good 4cyl. GM doesn't have it. Even with 6spd.
 
This is my opinion only.
I am not forcing this statement on anyone or being direct in my statement.
I am also not saying anyone is wrong with their statement either. That is why there are so many cars. I like the Malibu, but would be forced to get the V6, and I don't want a V6.
 
To each their own. I will never be convinced of GM again. Sorry.
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bvdj84 by vanman1
Jul 02, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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"The Malibu is nice, its pretty, but its guts are really no different, or any real reason to get too excited. At this point, a company should at least grasp the concept of a good 4cyl. GM doesn't have it. Even with 6spd".
 
Have you even driven one?
 
Not convinced of GM 4 bangers - go take a look at the new 2.4L Direct Inject in the 2010 Equinox. 32 MPG hwy and 183 hp with better mileage than any crossover on the market.
 
Would not be surprised to see this mill in the Malibu next year.
 
That said, there are no normally aspired 4-banger mid-size sedans out there. The Accords are fine but don't try and tell me they are fun to drive unless you slip a 6 under the hood. Yes I have driven one.
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Re: bvdj84 [vanman1] by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jul 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

That said, there are no normally aspired 4-banger mid-size sedans out there.
 
Want to try that again, for the cheap seats in the back? I don't think that's what you meant.
 
The Accords are fine but don't try and tell me they are fun to drive unless you slip a 6 under the hood.
 
Actually, the most fun-to-drive Accords come ONLY in 4-cylinder models. They have a stick-shift. Also, the 4-cylinder models feel more lively and are better balanced thanks to less weight hanging over the front wheels.
 
Fast doesn't mean "fun to drive." Just look at the Camry V6!
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Re: bvdj84 [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jul 03, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jul 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

Yes, the Accord engine is a well rounded engine. Not saying its perfect, but the 4cyl is an engine that likes to be wound up. I am not sure you can really say that about a GM 4cyl. However, couple it with a better transmission and controls, it would be a huge improvement. That is the culprit to the GM engine.
 
I bet the new Equinox will be nice, but then again, why are we offering yet another SUV? They are only now thinking green, because they are being forced to do so. I would much rather have a VW Tiquan, its got a 2.0T. Not as good of mileage, but I can feel confident, and have more fun!!
 
Drive what you want. Its just my take on it.
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Re: bvdj84 [bvdj84] by dmathews3
Jul 03, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 03, 2009 6:04 am)

The Equinox is NOT a SUV which has a frame. This is a crossover which is built on a car unibody and can come with either FWD or AWD in which a SUV comes with 4 Wheel drive and gets a whole lot worst gas mileage. This is a replacement for the Trailblazer SUV which was discontinued last fall.
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Re: bvdj84 [bvdj84] by butch100
Jul 03, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 03, 2009 6:04 am)

GM can't build a good 4?, I guess you've never heard of the Cobolt SS, it's 260HP 4 blows any Honda 4 completely out of the water. Also faster than the Accord V6 as well..
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Re: bvdj84 [butch100] by dmathews3
Jul 03, 2009 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 03, 2009 9:22 am)

Right, and for an extra $500 GM has a stage 1 kit that bumps that up another 30 HP for a total of 290hp and all under warranty.
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Re: bvdj84 [butch100] by thegraduate
Jul 03, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: butch100 (Jul 03, 2009 9:22 am)

I can turbocharge my Snapper and give it more horses but it doesn't make it any more than a really fast lawn-mower engine.
 
Personally, I'm not even close to being in the market for one of these cars, but do love the smoothness of the Honda 2.4L. Engine power nonwithstanding, its a fantastic engine, at least it is in the 2003-2007 Accord, which I happen to drive. Delivering 36+mpg on every trip at 75mph, and takes an 8 second run to 60 MPH.
 
I haven't driven a current GM 2.4L so I can't testify to how smooth or not it may be, but I did want to mention that horsepower isn't the only way you classify a "good 4."

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