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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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Re: 2.4 [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jun 11, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jun 09, 2009 4:58 pm)

Why do you think you chose the V6? because the 4cyl was not up to snuff. You can get by without a V6 on a VW or Honda. However, I do plan to get the V6 if I get an Accord.
 
Honestly though, I think my car's engine is not truly up to its full potential. As I have had my car in the shop for weird shifting transmission. The rentals I have had, are so much more refined and powerful, they were both the same 2.4 engine G6.
 
The dealer cannot find anything wrong. But, I totally feel the difference, it shouldn't shift so noticeably and rough on one of the lower gears. My engine seems a little grumpy. I cannot figure it out. Its like I got cheated out of a good engine. I am not sure what to do, as the dealer is starting to think I am weird...lol.
 
It may seem like I am picky, but I lease, and its only 13mths into the lease, and 2yrs left, only 16,000miles. If my cars were running like the rentals I have had, then I would agree, that it is a good little engine. I always felt the engine ran a bit sluggish since new, the car never really ran like the rentals.
 
Well, I could just stick it out for 2yrs, or transfer the lease, get a second opinion. But, I am so tired of having my car at the shop.
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4 bangers by vanman1
Jun 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Why do you think you chose the V6? because the 4cyl was not up to snuff. You can get by without a V6 on a VW or Honda. However, I do plan to get the V6 if I get an Accord.
 
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I think the Accord 4 engine is a snick smoother but it's still gutless. VWs are very unrefined, sorry you will never convince me otherwise. Go take a listen.
 
You are also getting a V6 because you know 4 cyl. mid-size sedans are no fun to drive. You can get by with anything but the Accord is no better than the Malibu on base engine fun. At least the Malibu gets better mileage with the 6-speed.
 
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Re: 4 bangers [vanman1] by thegraduate
Jun 15, 2009 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jun 15, 2009 5:31 pm)

4-bangers? No fun to drive?
 
Lighter weight over the front wheels = more agile handling; plus, better availability of a stick-shift. Those two things combined make driving much more fun.
 
Easier to merge with? Now, that's where the V6 becomes the winner, but as for me and my house, we will drive the 4-pot.
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4-bangers by vanman1
Jun 23, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Lighter weight over the front wheels = more agile handling; plus, better availability of a stick-shift. Those two things combined make driving much more fun.
 
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No fun if it has no power. They are fine for compacts but in a mid-size loaded up, forget it!
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Re: 4-bangers [vanman1] by thegraduate
Jun 23, 2009 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jun 23, 2009 6:37 pm)

0-60 in the low 7s doesn't happen in cars with "no power."
 
And, loaded up, I'm typically not carving corners; I'm cruising down the highway.
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Re: 4-bangers by bvdj84
Jun 24, 2009 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 23, 2009 8:26 pm)

I miss my Accord 4cyl engine. It was refined and smooth, and quick. Not a race car, but it got the job done. There are many other cars that offer a much better, updated engine than the 4cyl GM engine. Read the reviews, it will show much more engine issues and observation. I wonder why several people at my dealership want out of their GM cars, all with 4cyl's? We happened to have the same salesmen, and both there asking him to get out. Both with similar observations.
 
Ironically enough, my salesmen, a GM fan, and leased a C-Class mercedes. He was the one who said that he wouldn't drive a foreign car. His mother also got a 09 Jetta. He loves them now! Night and day!
 
The Malibu is nice, its pretty, but its guts are really no different, or any real reason to get too excited. At this point, a company should atleast grasp the concept of a good 4cyl. GM doesn't have it. Even with 6spd.
 
This is my opinion only.
I am not forcing this statement on anyone or being direct in my statement.
I am also not saying anyone is wrong with their statement either. That is why there are so many cars. I like the Malibu, but would be forced to get the V6, and I don't want a V6.
 
To each their own. I will never be convinced of GM again. Sorry.
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bvdj84 by vanman1
Jul 02, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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"The Malibu is nice, its pretty, but its guts are really no different, or any real reason to get too excited. At this point, a company should at least grasp the concept of a good 4cyl. GM doesn't have it. Even with 6spd".
 
Have you even driven one?
 
Not convinced of GM 4 bangers - go take a look at the new 2.4L Direct Inject in the 2010 Equinox. 32 MPG hwy and 183 hp with better mileage than any crossover on the market.
 
Would not be surprised to see this mill in the Malibu next year.
 
That said, there are no normally aspired 4-banger mid-size sedans out there. The Accords are fine but don't try and tell me they are fun to drive unless you slip a 6 under the hood. Yes I have driven one.
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Re: bvdj84 [vanman1] by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jul 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

That said, there are no normally aspired 4-banger mid-size sedans out there.
 
Want to try that again, for the cheap seats in the back? I don't think that's what you meant.
 
The Accords are fine but don't try and tell me they are fun to drive unless you slip a 6 under the hood.
 
Actually, the most fun-to-drive Accords come ONLY in 4-cylinder models. They have a stick-shift. Also, the 4-cylinder models feel more lively and are better balanced thanks to less weight hanging over the front wheels.
 
Fast doesn't mean "fun to drive." Just look at the Camry V6!
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Re: bvdj84 [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jul 03, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jul 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

Yes, the Accord engine is a well rounded engine. Not saying its perfect, but the 4cyl is an engine that likes to be wound up. I am not sure you can really say that about a GM 4cyl. However, couple it with a better transmission and controls, it would be a huge improvement. That is the culprit to the GM engine.
 
I bet the new Equinox will be nice, but then again, why are we offering yet another SUV? They are only now thinking green, because they are being forced to do so. I would much rather have a VW Tiquan, its got a 2.0T. Not as good of mileage, but I can feel confident, and have more fun!!
 
Drive what you want. Its just my take on it.
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Re: bvdj84 [bvdj84] by dmathews3
Jul 03, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jul 03, 2009 6:04 am)

The Equinox is NOT a SUV which has a frame. This is a crossover which is built on a car unibody and can come with either FWD or AWD in which a SUV comes with 4 Wheel drive and gets a whole lot worst gas mileage. This is a replacement for the Trailblazer SUV which was discontinued last fall.

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