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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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Re: Agree with above, and add... [imidazol97] by vanman1
May 21, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 09, 2009 6:20 am)

The 6-speed makes a huge difference. I ended up with a 3.6 / 6-speed but I tried both a 4-speed and 6 and the 6 was much more responsive and smooth.
 
GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jun 04, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (May 21, 2009 6:53 pm)

"GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around."
 
Are you serious? It is the worst engines I have driven! Yes, the 6spd 4cyl was a bit better, but they certainly was not close to the feel of the 06 Accord 4cyl I had a year ago. Or close to the 08 Jetta SE engine. It could be a great engine, but the transmission, engine programming are completely off. Not to mention its loss of refinement and low smoothness.
 
No offense to you at all. But, in my experience, my opinion, it is an engine that seems like its been neglected, with no real improvement. My 08 Jetta SE, and the Accord 4cyl would blow the GM 4cyl off the road.
 
Perhaps it just my car 08 G6 4cyl.. I have had the Catalytic converter replaced, not sure, but the transmission feels off too. But even the rental felt similar, but better with a 6spd auto.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [bvdj84] by dmathews3
Jun 04, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jun 04, 2009 6:27 am)

Sometimes better is in the eyes of the beholder or in the pocketbook. Compared to the engines you named you may be right but sometimes simpler is better when it comes to repairs. It has been my experiences that foreign parts can be at least twice the price as American parts. To me that makes the American engine better.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [dmathews3] by thegraduate
Jun 04, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 04, 2009 6:46 am)

You may good points, but simply parts availability and pricing does not a "good engine" make, to me. Then again, I'm not an engineer, I'm a driving enthusiast who expects his car to make it to 200k miles. (I'm 40 miles shy of 194k in my '96 Accord LX 2.2L 4-speed automatic). My newer one is barely broken in... 2006 2.4L Accord with 48k miles.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [thegraduate] by dmathews3
Jun 04, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 04, 2009 4:06 pm)

Me, I liked my 01 Cavalier that I sold to my at the time 17 year old niece and now has 120+K even with 2 wrecks and a 8 mile drive home after one with a leak in the radiator and no fluid left when she got home and the heat of the engine was so hot that after 45 min. when I got there you still couldn't touch the engine and that was at 87K. For the most part I believe that any car/engine will last a few hundred K if it is taken care of.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [dmathews3] by thegraduate
Jun 04, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 04, 2009 5:53 pm)

I wish they were all like that; unfortunately, (true for all makes) there will be bad apples in a bunch. My girlfriend's 2001 Saturn SC1 just bit the dust (needs a new transmission, and yes it was serviced ) at 90k miles. Now she's trying to get $1,800 for it.
 
She got an '07 Santa Fe GLS to replace it (just for the record).
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2.4 by vanman1
Jun 09, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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"Are you serious? It is the worst engines I have driven! Yes, the 6spd 4cyl was a bit better, but they certainly was not close to the feel of the 06 Accord 4cyl I had a year ago. Or close to the 08 Jetta SE engine. It could be a great engine, but the transmission, engine programming are completely off. Not to mention its loss of refinement and low smoothness".
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Jetta engines are just not refined, I think you are dreaming. I would give the edge to the Accord 4 banger over the Ecotec BUT, inside the car GM has done a great job of isolating the engine to the point where it's not noticeable.
 
Personally I prefer V6s though so I went with the 3.6L/6-speed Malibu.
  
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Re: 2.4 [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jun 11, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jun 09, 2009 4:58 pm)

Why do you think you chose the V6? because the 4cyl was not up to snuff. You can get by without a V6 on a VW or Honda. However, I do plan to get the V6 if I get an Accord.
 
Honestly though, I think my car's engine is not truly up to its full potential. As I have had my car in the shop for weird shifting transmission. The rentals I have had, are so much more refined and powerful, they were both the same 2.4 engine G6.
 
The dealer cannot find anything wrong. But, I totally feel the difference, it shouldn't shift so noticeably and rough on one of the lower gears. My engine seems a little grumpy. I cannot figure it out. Its like I got cheated out of a good engine. I am not sure what to do, as the dealer is starting to think I am weird...lol.
 
It may seem like I am picky, but I lease, and its only 13mths into the lease, and 2yrs left, only 16,000miles. If my cars were running like the rentals I have had, then I would agree, that it is a good little engine. I always felt the engine ran a bit sluggish since new, the car never really ran like the rentals.
 
Well, I could just stick it out for 2yrs, or transfer the lease, get a second opinion. But, I am so tired of having my car at the shop.
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4 bangers by vanman1
Jun 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Why do you think you chose the V6? because the 4cyl was not up to snuff. You can get by without a V6 on a VW or Honda. However, I do plan to get the V6 if I get an Accord.
 
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I think the Accord 4 engine is a snick smoother but it's still gutless. VWs are very unrefined, sorry you will never convince me otherwise. Go take a listen.
 
You are also getting a V6 because you know 4 cyl. mid-size sedans are no fun to drive. You can get by with anything but the Accord is no better than the Malibu on base engine fun. At least the Malibu gets better mileage with the 6-speed.
 

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