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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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Re: Agree with above, and add... [djm2] by imidazol97
May 09, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: djm2 (May 08, 2009 4:08 pm)

Greg, I'm not clear if you've driven a Malibu 4-cyl with the 6-speed transmission in the newer model? If you haven't please stop and drive one or more at different dealers and see how they work.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [imidazol97] by bvdj84
May 10, 2009 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 09, 2009 6:20 am)

Yes, I bet they are an improvement over the older 4spd auto. But, I do agree that American cars have not accomplished a successful 4cyl. You try driving a new VW Jetta with a 2.0T with the DSG transmission. That thing simply rolls!! Its so much fun!!
No where near any 4cyl GM car. Night and day difference. Honestly, I think there is something wrong with my 4cyl!! I think the transmission might be going out, its slips and surges all the time into gear. Its all done a little too rough periodically. I am trying to get the dealer to look at it. It feels like I am driving an older car with over 100k miles on it.
 
I only have 15,000 miles on it. I drive gently with my car too. Driving calmy too seems to show more signs of transmission problems. There is this one gear that has seems to shift rough, even when new, I just though it needed broken in. ?
 
  I want to try to talk to someone in the business to see what my options are right now. I have been in the car a year (lease)... If it wasn't for the engine being so BLAH! I would actually like my 08 G6. Obviously I'll keep it til the end if I need to, but why not seek all options and avenues too right?
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [imidazol97] by vanman1
May 21, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 09, 2009 6:20 am)

The 6-speed makes a huge difference. I ended up with a 3.6 / 6-speed but I tried both a 4-speed and 6 and the 6 was much more responsive and smooth.
 
GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jun 04, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (May 21, 2009 6:53 pm)

"GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around."
 
Are you serious? It is the worst engines I have driven! Yes, the 6spd 4cyl was a bit better, but they certainly was not close to the feel of the 06 Accord 4cyl I had a year ago. Or close to the 08 Jetta SE engine. It could be a great engine, but the transmission, engine programming are completely off. Not to mention its loss of refinement and low smoothness.
 
No offense to you at all. But, in my experience, my opinion, it is an engine that seems like its been neglected, with no real improvement. My 08 Jetta SE, and the Accord 4cyl would blow the GM 4cyl off the road.
 
Perhaps it just my car 08 G6 4cyl.. I have had the Catalytic converter replaced, not sure, but the transmission feels off too. But even the rental felt similar, but better with a 6spd auto.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [bvdj84] by dmathews3
Jun 04, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jun 04, 2009 6:27 am)

Sometimes better is in the eyes of the beholder or in the pocketbook. Compared to the engines you named you may be right but sometimes simpler is better when it comes to repairs. It has been my experiences that foreign parts can be at least twice the price as American parts. To me that makes the American engine better.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [dmathews3] by thegraduate
Jun 04, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 04, 2009 6:46 am)

You may good points, but simply parts availability and pricing does not a "good engine" make, to me. Then again, I'm not an engineer, I'm a driving enthusiast who expects his car to make it to 200k miles. (I'm 40 miles shy of 194k in my '96 Accord LX 2.2L 4-speed automatic). My newer one is barely broken in... 2006 2.4L Accord with 48k miles.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [thegraduate] by dmathews3
Jun 04, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 04, 2009 4:06 pm)

Me, I liked my 01 Cavalier that I sold to my at the time 17 year old niece and now has 120+K even with 2 wrecks and a 8 mile drive home after one with a leak in the radiator and no fluid left when she got home and the heat of the engine was so hot that after 45 min. when I got there you still couldn't touch the engine and that was at 87K. For the most part I believe that any car/engine will last a few hundred K if it is taken care of.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [dmathews3] by thegraduate
Jun 04, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Jun 04, 2009 5:53 pm)

I wish they were all like that; unfortunately, (true for all makes) there will be bad apples in a bunch. My girlfriend's 2001 Saturn SC1 just bit the dust (needs a new transmission, and yes it was serviced ) at 90k miles. Now she's trying to get $1,800 for it.
 
She got an '07 Santa Fe GLS to replace it (just for the record).
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2.4 by vanman1
Jun 09, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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"Are you serious? It is the worst engines I have driven! Yes, the 6spd 4cyl was a bit better, but they certainly was not close to the feel of the 06 Accord 4cyl I had a year ago. Or close to the 08 Jetta SE engine. It could be a great engine, but the transmission, engine programming are completely off. Not to mention its loss of refinement and low smoothness".
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Jetta engines are just not refined, I think you are dreaming. I would give the edge to the Accord 4 banger over the Ecotec BUT, inside the car GM has done a great job of isolating the engine to the point where it's not noticeable.
 
Personally I prefer V6s though so I went with the 3.6L/6-speed Malibu.
  

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