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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

643 messages,  Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 6:32 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Agree with above, and add... [djm2] by bvdj84
May 08, 2009 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: djm2 (May 08, 2009 1:56 am)

I cannot believe we are comparing a GM product to a Honda or nissan product in the first place..lol. You drive a Malibu 4cyl or a Honda Accord 4cyl, the differences in engine are quite large. The Honda engine is night and day better. I think that is the one thing GM hasn't really focused on much. Their just now offering a 6spd transmission on the auto, coming from a 4spd. Impala fleet car to an Accord? That just looks silly. No offense to you at all. But, it comes down to why are we even looking at a GM car to a Honda. The malibu's body has only recently begun to be attractive (engine, I am not sure), so the malibu could be a good comparison.
 
You do not hear people talk about GM's engines, other than if its a sports car. But, you do not hear people say the V6 is smooth and refined, or you can get by with a 4cyl because it is so smooth and efficient. Why do you see most people opt to get the V6 in a GM car? The 4cyl cannot cut it. My 06 Accord 4cyl engine would blow the G6 4cyl I have now off the road!!! Not to mentions its crappy transmission.
 
I would love to have my Honda back, but the Camry looks nice too. As long as its suspension isn't soft.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [bvdj84] by berri
May 08, 2009 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (May 08, 2009 5:05 am)

I think they should add the new Fusion to this comparison.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [berri] by thegraduate
May 08, 2009 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: berri (May 08, 2009 10:09 am)

I believe Midsize Sedans 2.0 covers all the bases here.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [bvdj84] by djm2
May 08, 2009 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (May 08, 2009 5:05 am)

Hi All:
    I would NEVER purchase a 4 cylinder American vehicle! ------- American car manufacturers cannot build a quality four cylinder engine!---- I was comparing the V6 Impala, to the V6 Camry, to the V6 Honda Accord!
    Best regards to all! ----- Dwayne
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [djm2] by imidazol97
May 09, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: djm2 (May 08, 2009 4:08 pm)

Greg, I'm not clear if you've driven a Malibu 4-cyl with the 6-speed transmission in the newer model? If you haven't please stop and drive one or more at different dealers and see how they work.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [imidazol97] by bvdj84
May 10, 2009 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 09, 2009 6:20 am)

Yes, I bet they are an improvement over the older 4spd auto. But, I do agree that American cars have not accomplished a successful 4cyl. You try driving a new VW Jetta with a 2.0T with the DSG transmission. That thing simply rolls!! Its so much fun!!
No where near any 4cyl GM car. Night and day difference. Honestly, I think there is something wrong with my 4cyl!! I think the transmission might be going out, its slips and surges all the time into gear. Its all done a little too rough periodically. I am trying to get the dealer to look at it. It feels like I am driving an older car with over 100k miles on it.
 
I only have 15,000 miles on it. I drive gently with my car too. Driving calmy too seems to show more signs of transmission problems. There is this one gear that has seems to shift rough, even when new, I just though it needed broken in. ?
 
  I want to try to talk to someone in the business to see what my options are right now. I have been in the car a year (lease)... If it wasn't for the engine being so BLAH! I would actually like my 08 G6. Obviously I'll keep it til the end if I need to, but why not seek all options and avenues too right?
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [imidazol97] by vanman1
May 21, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 09, 2009 6:20 am)

The 6-speed makes a huge difference. I ended up with a 3.6 / 6-speed but I tried both a 4-speed and 6 and the 6 was much more responsive and smooth.
 
GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [vanman1] by bvdj84
Jun 04, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: vanman1 (May 21, 2009 6:53 pm)

"GM's 2.4L is a nice little engine, definitely one of the best 4 bangers around."
 
Are you serious? It is the worst engines I have driven! Yes, the 6spd 4cyl was a bit better, but they certainly was not close to the feel of the 06 Accord 4cyl I had a year ago. Or close to the 08 Jetta SE engine. It could be a great engine, but the transmission, engine programming are completely off. Not to mention its loss of refinement and low smoothness.
 
No offense to you at all. But, in my experience, my opinion, it is an engine that seems like its been neglected, with no real improvement. My 08 Jetta SE, and the Accord 4cyl would blow the GM 4cyl off the road.
 
Perhaps it just my car 08 G6 4cyl.. I have had the Catalytic converter replaced, not sure, but the transmission feels off too. But even the rental felt similar, but better with a 6spd auto.
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Re: Agree with above, and add... [bvdj84] by dmathews3
Jun 04, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jun 04, 2009 6:27 am)

Sometimes better is in the eyes of the beholder or in the pocketbook. Compared to the engines you named you may be right but sometimes simpler is better when it comes to repairs. It has been my experiences that foreign parts can be at least twice the price as American parts. To me that makes the American engine better.

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