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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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Re: My take. [perna] by bwia
Feb 18, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: perna (Feb 18, 2008 11:41 am)

perna, your observations are on target and my sentiments exactly. When we were shopping for a new mid-sized car and would mention to the salesmen selling foreign name plates that we were considering the Malibu they all went mute. They knew deep down they couldn’t compete on product much less price. We looked at the Camry/Accord and walked away disappointed. These cars are competing on past laurels not on present day reality.
 
Although we were impressed with the Acura TSX’s interior styling, the exterior just cannot compare to the Malibu. Furthermore, the price differential over the Malibu cannot be justified.
 
In the car biz the name of the game is product and finally GM has the product in the Malibu to kick the butt of the Accord/Camry/Fusion, et al.
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Re: My take. [bwia] by thegraduate
Feb 18, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Feb 18, 2008 12:19 pm)

Does the Malibu have better interior materials than the Aura on the lower-end models (Aura XE/Malibu LS/LT1)?
 
I sat in an Aura Hybrid at the auto-show and was thoroughly disappointed with the cheap feel of everything, including the steering wheel. If the Malibu is no better than the Aura, then I'll be passing on it next time.
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Re: My take. [bwia] by texases
Feb 18, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Feb 18, 2008 12:19 pm)

"GM has the product in the Malibu to kick the butt of the Accord/Camry/Fusion, et al. "
 
Even the NY Times agrees:
NYT Likes Malibu
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Re: My take. [thegraduate] by perna
Feb 18, 2008 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 18, 2008 12:23 pm)

Does the Malibu have better interior materials than the Aura on the lower-end models (Aura XE/Malibu LS/LT1)?
 
Honestly, I can't comment on Malibu LS. I only drove the LTZ.
 
I've only seen the base model Aura's interior (I wonder if we went to the same auto show, lol), and I agree it wasn't very good. I *hate* grey interiors, even on luxury cars. It makes the whole thing seem cheap. If I do buy an LTZ, I'll go with the brick and black, it looks pretty sharp, and would be a nice changeup from the all-black interior Maxima I've been driving for the past 5 years.
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Re: My take. [perna] by thegraduate
Feb 18, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: perna (Feb 18, 2008 12:48 pm)

Thanks for the honest reply.
 
I'm a 4-cylinder guy for the most part (sure 250+ hp is fun, but unnecessary), and wouldn't look at a Malibu with the 3.6L because of the higher cost of fuel as well as the cost of entry. I currently am very happy with my 2006 Accord EX (cloth) 4-cyl, and don't plan to change soon, but I like to keep abreast of the market should something happen to my car, that way I know right where to go test drive and what to look for. Plus, this stuff is sorta fun to me!
 
Take care.
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Re: My take. [perna] by personatech
Jul 29, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: perna (Feb 18, 2008 11:41 am)

Sorry, but I can't agree. I just went through the process of comparing the Camry, Accord, Altima, and Malibu, focusing on 4-cylinders for their better fuel economy.
 
Most everyone's comments on the Camry are spot-on: looks a bit like a manatee, drives like a sofa, its 4-cylinder engine was anemic compared to the Accord, and it had less interior space than the Accord. I was particularly interested in the Hybrid but got in the game too late - had I purchased my vehicle two months prior I could have gotten a decent discounted price. Gas hit $4 per gallon about the time I started shopping seriously and the hybrid feeding frenzy was on! - I was quoted $32,000 for a TCH comparable to an Accord EX-L that most dealers were selling at $24000. $8K will buy a LOT of gasoline! I also found the hybrid "light show" distracting - why can't they design hybrid cars that don't scream the fact to you?
 
I really wanted to like the Malibu LTZ: great interior design, a new take on exterior styling, great fit and finish. However, the 4-cyl engine was also anemic compared to the Accord (even with the 6-speed tranny) and its cockpit was the tightest of the three - I had to lower my seat all the way just to have enough headroom clearance and I felt like I was sitting ON the seat bolsters rather than having them hold me in my seat. Lastly, the trunk is cavernous BUT the trunk hatch is so small that only smallish items can go in the trunk. I play bass and fashioned a cardboard box the size of my 2x10 cab - it fit easily in both the Camry and Accord but wouldn't in the Malibu, either from the back or from the front after folding down the rear seat.
 
Since the topic didn't include the Altima, I'll just say that the 2.5SL seemed cheap compared to the other three we test-drove and the CVT's whine was a bit annoying. Nice car, but not as nice as the Malibu or Accord.
 
As you might have guessed by now, I went with the Accord EX-L. Some don't like its looks but I personally think it's a very handsome automobile (the front end straight on in particular) and many have complimented me on its looks. Add the ivory (tan) leather interior with wood trim and it compares favorably with the Malibu's interior. The seats are more comfortable than the Malibu's and I have plenty of headroom and shoulder room. The center stack is a bit more intimidating than the Malibu's but is easy enough to understand once you get used to it. The trunk is very spacious; I can fit my entire bass rig in it with room to spare. Lastly, I have no doubts of the Honda's reliability and resale value, while GM still needs to prove themselves to me. The Honda does lack some amenities I liked in the Malibu: the rear power package, 60/40 split rear seats, and the trip computer come to mind, but these were minor items in the great scheme of things.
 
Had you suggested two years ago that I would even consider a Malibu, I'd have laughed in your face. Today, I am impressed - if GM can keep this up AND prove to consumers that their products are of a consistently high quality, then they'll do well. In fact, in six or seven years when it's time for something new, I'll give GM another opportunity; it was very close this time - maybe the 2015 Malibu will be a winner!
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Re: My take. [personatech] by mazda6dude
Jul 30, 2008 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: personatech (Jul 29, 2008 11:48 am)

I have driven the altima 2.5S, altima hybrid, camry 2.4L automatic and there is no comparison to the Honda Accord. I bought a 2008 Honda Accord LX automatic. Even though the exterior design is up for debate and discussion, the engineering, handling, ride, quality far surpasses the camry, altima. I cannot comment on the Malibu since I have not driven one, but a awesome track record for over 32 years for the Honda Accord will be hard to match.
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First American car in 21 years by jakeinswitz
Aug 18, 2008 (12:13 am)
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From 1984-1987 I drove a 1970 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (why, oh why did I sell it?!). It was beautiful, but handled like a yam wagon, and burned fuel like the gas tank was on fire. Leaking exhaust fumes inside the interior had earned it the nickname of "The Gas Chamber" from my wife. This fact, coupled with the birth of my daughter, spelled the end of my days with the 'stang. So I got me one a dem rice mobiles! An 87 Maxima.
 
  Since then we have owned another Nissan, 3 Toyota's, a Mitsu 3000gt, and 2 Acura's. With no real justification for my wife's Acura MDX, we traded it for an 08 Miata. Yes, I know. Big departure, but she put her foot down and refused to be the grocery hauler. I drive a BMW 328 coupe myself so I had no right to force her into another barge. This left us with no way of moving more than 2 people in one vehicle unless punishing someone was the purpose of the ride.
 
I decided we needed an economical family hauler for when the kids come for a visit from college, or if the bat comes to drain my life from me (code for Mother in law visit). I drove all 3 of these cars, as well as the Altima. I had my doubts about the Malibu, but I had to see what the hype was about.
 
The Altima felt cheap and I really disliked the CVT. The Camry was just unloveable. Such an appliance. This really broke my heart because in my younger years I loved Toyota's. The Accord may have gotten the pick if it was my absolute only means of transportation, but I am sorry Honda fans, it is uglier than the back end of a bulldog with worms. That grill! My god, what were they thinking?
 
I am one of those guys that likes to look down on his driveway from his bedroom window, and like what he sees. The Malibu fits right in with the Miata and my BMW as far as looks go, but beauty isn't everything, and the Malibu is doing just fine in all other departments.
 
The Malibu is a Black LTZ 4 cylinder, with the brick/ebony interior. The interior just felt more upscale to me compared to the Honda and others. Although I am 6'1", I didn't feel the claustrophobia. I have always driven sporty cars, and don't like cavernous autos. The ride feels as good as anything Japan has put out, and we are averaging 27 MPG. Is it as fast as the Honda? No. But if you are looking for a fast sporty car, I can make some recommendations. None of which are 4 cylinder family cars.
 
Good for you GM! I might even have to check out a Cadillac CTS when it comes time to say goodbye to the BMW.
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Re: First American car in 21 years [jakeinswitz] by bvdj84
Aug 18, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: jakeinswitz (Aug 18, 2008 12:13 am)

Yes, I went to the dealer yesterday, while no one was there, I closely looked at the Malibu, and I am really impressed with it! The overall design is very classy, and makes you wonder why they are just now taking design seriously. I truly love the interior as well, the leather with the suede inserts are very nice. I am not sure it looks any more upscale than the Accord, rather the malibu just really worked more on interior details that pertain to the look of it. The Accord has a very nice interior, its just they didn't go crazy on the colors, suede inserts. The cost of the Malibu is quite good as well. You seem to get a lot for the money. But, would I buy one? If I did not love Honda and VW so much, I would. GM is going in the right direction with the Malibu, now if they can downsize some of its lower quality units, they could, perhaps have a set of really nice cars.
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Re: First American car in 21 years by malmouza
Aug 20, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Aug 18, 2008 6:56 am)

I agree with the lot of comments that have been said about the Malibu and the Accord. But there is one place that people they need to understand, manufacturer will never please all people by the exterior design they choose for a specific model, I read a lot of comments about the 08 accord exterior design, some of it good some of it bad. I am one of those people that like the new design, the back of the car is like the BMW 525i, the front there is no similarity with the Sonata like heard before. My only negative comment about the 08 Accord is the manufacturer made the car so big that it did kill the gas mileage and diminishes some of the crisp handling it use to have, I am not saying it does not handle well now, but there is a little over steering and under steering and some body roll in turns compare to the previous generation. Honda should have shortened the car by 1” compare to the 2007 Accord instead of enlarging it. That would have lead to an amazing handling and good fuel economy in the range of 34 MPG. Whoever wants more space than a regular sedan he need to go check out a minivan or CUV. But as far as the design is concern, at first I did not warm up to it, but after couple days I can see the aggressive front fascia, and the smooth rounded rear deck of improve aerodynamic, that is why the Accord has 0.31 cd. This is the lowest in the industry for a large sedan. Again, Honda approach is trying to please its old customers (baby boomers) that they are over 50 of age now; but in the process lost younger people that they are looking for sport/spacious/practical/economic transportation. Honda always considered US market as filled with fat people that likes big cars more powerful engines to race on street. They were wrong this time and that is why they are not meeting the sells numbers they predicted for the Accord. Now, they cannot change the size of the Accord after one year in the market, what they are trying to do, is to put diesel engine in the Accord, and since they already selling the accord in Europe (TSX) with the same engine, it won’t cost them a lot to just slap the newly developed by Honda catalytic converter in the new Accord and it will pass the emission in the 50 states. Very smart thing to do, isn’t it? The diesel get a good gas mileage but here in USA the diesel is $1 more than the gasoline, and by crunching the numbers I do not think the diesel will help that much….

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