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#457 of 804 Re: Anyone doing comparisons lately? [beach15]
by rmanke
Jan 29, 2008 (7:08 pm)
I'm ready to wrap up my search. Quite some time ago, I sold my '05 Accord EXL V6 and had been waiting for the '08 Accords to arrive. My basic requirements were pretty simple - Be able to handle our worn out, rough roads here in the frozen north, get reasonable mileage, safe and because my plan is to give this vehicle to one of my kids in two, or three years, good long term reliability. After driving several '08 Accords, I was very disappointed and despite the hype and the pro-Honda people, it came off my list. My favorite was the Passat, but after having less than stellar reliability from three in the past (2000 and two 2002's, the first 2002 literally died with 24 miles on it) it fell to the wayside. The Saab was fun, but in the same category as the Passat. When the dust settled, it came down to the Malibu 2LT V6 and the Camry V6. Stylewise and price with $3000 in old GM credit card rebates, the Malibu was a strong possibility. On the other hand, I felt claustrophobic in it, the mileage was the worst of the V6's and two of the four I tried had multiple rattles. Although aesthetically challenged, the Camry V6 best met my criteria and I just hope Toyota gets their act together on the '09's. Late last week my dealer received their first allocation of '09s and the one allocated to them has my name on it. If I was going for a four cylinder, I would have bought the Altima. To me, for a mainstream FWD sedan, it's one of the best balanced from a ride/handling standpoint, but their option set up on the V6's just didn't meet what I wanted.
#458 of 804 Re: Anyone doing comparisons lately? [rmanke]
by tired_old_dave
Jan 29, 2008 (8:50 pm)
"... I felt claustrophobic in it,..."
Was it the center stack and lack of leg/knee room. Was it this curvature of the interior that our previa had (taken from the vette? and used by other automakers too). This is eased on our '04 by use of the adjustable pedals and steering wheel.
#459 of 804 Re: Anyone doing comparisons lately? [tired_old_dave]
by rmanke
Jan 30, 2008 (6:55 am)
Everyone is different, but for me, I found the low roof line encroached too much on the interior space and the narrowness of the Malibu made me feel cramped. It was the only vehicle I drove where I found my left leg continually brushing up against the door. Others may find the Malibu "intimate."
#460 of 804 Re: Anyone doing comparisons lately? [rmanke]
by bug4
Jan 30, 2008 (9:06 am)
Just interested to know what things you didn't like about the Accord. My guess is that you didn't like the ride! I've put about 6k on my 08 Accord and, while I like the ride, it likely is a little firm and abrupt for people who drive on lots of rough roads. The Camry should meet your needs much better in that regard . . .its smoooooth!
#461 of 804 Re: Anyone doing comparisons lately? [bug4]
by rmanke
Jan 30, 2008 (2:07 pm)
You've got it, the ride over our rough roads was a significant issue. For better, or worse, I drive much more on rough roads than I do curvy ones to get the extra enjoyment of the better cornering on the Accord. Where the Accord shined for me was the steering. It was quick with good feedback and seemed improved over my '05 Accord. Good luck with yours.
#462 of 804 Malibu puts GM ahead of Toyota
by dave8697
Feb 02, 2008 (10:49 am)
GM sales for Jan up 2.6% but Toyota sales were down 2.7%
Are people waking up to the fact that we are headed into a period where GM quality meets or beats any of the competition and people are willing to change their perceptions to those based more on reality than during the last couple years? Or do they still think GM needs to lose more jobs?
The loss of 17,000 US jobs this month is another wake up call.
Lost jobs that get replaced by lower paying jobs are more common I keep hearing. Is that like being an engineering co-op for GM one summer and then a burger flipper the following summer as you work your way through college?
Foreign investment buying depressed American industry should be a wake up call. Is it? Or are we going to keep giving away our country by buying foreign cars and tv's?, etc,
Recession
Unemployment
Foreclosure
Our country now thinks we can revive our economy with food stamps increases and gas money for the poor working class. Isn't that a wonderful place to be? What are we willing to reduce ourselves to before we will finally provide Americans car sales to support America's economy? I hope every neighborhood where foreign cars outnumber American ones has enough foreclosures to drop all that neighborhood's home prices by $7000 each. That will help this all sink in.
#463 of 804 Re: Malibu puts GM ahead of Toyota [dave8697]
by thegraduate
Feb 02, 2008 (11:16 am)
Foreign investment buying depressed American industry should be a wake up call. Is it? Or are we going to keep giving away our country by buying foreign cars and tv's?, etc,
Recession
Unemployment
Foreclosure
Our country now thinks we can revive our economy with food stamps increases and gas money for the poor working class. Isn't that a wonderful place to be? What are we willing to reduce ourselves to before we will finally provide Americans car sales to support America's economy? I hope every neighborhood where foreign cars outnumber American ones has enough foreclosures to drop all that neighborhood's home prices by $7000 each. That will help this all sink in.
And this has what to do with comparing attributes of the Camry, Malibu, and Accord?
I'm sure a host would be happy to link you to the News and Views board.
#464 of 804 Re: Malibu puts GM ahead of Toyota [thegraduate]
by dave8697
Feb 03, 2008 (1:27 pm)
These are the unintended effects of buying non-US. One of the attributes of a car purchase is it's effect on our nation's strength. Regardless of how the comparison comes out, the purchase of a nissan, toyota or honda results in the sending of 65-85% of the purchase price to Japan, even if it was made in Ohio. That eventually leads to the loss of american jobs and american real estate to the Japanese. With the lost jobs comes foreclosure of your neighbor from his house. With that comes a hard hit to your 401K and a foreclosure sign not too far from your house. With that comes a $7000 drop in your house value to add to your 401k drop. With that you might still find reason to smile because CR says you made a great choice by picking your car purchase from their reccommended list, made up of 90% foreign cars that result in all our American earnings being sent overseas. I personally find it easier to swallow a lesser rating from a B.S., innacurate, CR type entity for my car that I purchased than to deal with the 401k hit and the friend out of work and a foreclosed home in my neighborhood taking $7k off the value of my house. I could have the american car for free by comparison when these other unintended effects are added in.
#465 of 804 Re: Malibu puts GM ahead of Toyota [dave8697]
by elroy5
Feb 03, 2008 (2:32 pm)
I refuse to bail out a company, by buying inferior products. Is that what business is about? No one is bailing me out. I have to perform to get my pay. Sorry, but I expect the same from GM. GM is not a charity, so I am not giving them anything. Just like me, they're going to have to earn it.
#466 of 804 Re: Malibu puts GM ahead of Toyota [dave8697]
by Karen@Edmunds HOST
Feb 03, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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