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Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#440 of 804 Re: Toyota in tight race for No. 1 with GM [elroy5]
Jan 19, 2008 (2:58 pm)
Actually, the headliner design, IIRC, is actually different. The stereo issue is unique to 03-04s.
I'm not really arguing the fact that you can get relatively perfect 1st year runs and problematic 4th year runs, but statistically, it works the other way around. Your car having a stereo failure just helps prove my point.
Toyota's V6 Camry and 5.7L Tundra are other examples, as are the Civic with the "lug-bug" that was in several 06s but has since disappeared for 07 and 08, Odyssey vans with the vibration/resonance/droning issue were prevalent in 2005, but I rarely read about newer versions with them (my aunt's 2005 has that problem, had recalled airbag sensors, a misaligned rear bumper, and a windshield whistle at 50 MPH). This new-for-2005 model was built in 2004 - in other words, before any bugs were worked out.
Again, this isn't the case for every built vehicle in a model line, but mathematically, earlier models are typically the ones with the bugs. It's just statstically proven - viewing CR's reports will show that.
#441 of 804 Re: Another thing worth considering... [mypathy2001]
Jan 19, 2008 (3:46 pm)
The V6 comparison is about to become temporarily moot because the word is that Chevrolet has suspended production of the V6 Malibu. The Cadillac CTS and Buick Enclave (as well as the Malibu) are all setting sales records and all have the 3.6L V6. GM was unprepared for their success and can't produce enough 3.6L V6 engines to meet the demand. So all of the V6s they have are going into 35K+ Caddys and Buicks instead of 25K Chevys. I have heard it will be at least 3 months before there are any more V6 Malibus built.
#442 of 804 WSJ Picks Malibu over Accord
Jan 25, 2008 (10:35 am)
Good article in today's WSJ, they like the Malibu:
#443 of 804 Re: WSJ Picks Malibu over Accord [texases]
Jan 25, 2008 (3:32 pm)
First, I admit I am the owner of an 08 Accord. So . . . .
I don't believe the WSJ article is good, helpful or informative. It is among the most subject pieces I've ever seen on the subject. The writer certainly is not a member of a forum like this one and is oblivious to the treatment you get when you start espousing opinion as fact. A large portion of the article is nothing but subjective junk on issues about which there absolutely is no right answer. For example, does the crease on the side panels of the Accord look like the result of a crash with a guard rail? Acura doesn't think so, nor do the makers of the 3 or 5 series BMW.. . . .nor does Honda or the 400,000+ people who will buy the 08 Accord in the next year. Just because you write for the WSJ doesn't mean you don't have your head up your a$$. I wish the author were a member of this forum -- it would be fun to write a scathingly sarcastic response to the dribble he penned. . . . he made himself a very easy target!
#444 of 804 Re: WSJ Picks Malibu over Accord [bug4]
Jan 25, 2008 (3:48 pm)
The review showed an obvious bias against the Accord, and I figured that should be evident to anyone who read it. 99% of the review is purely subjective opinions, and make you wonder if you can believe anything the reviewer writes.
Jan 25, 2008 (4:15 pm)
Because the article doesn't fall over itself praising the redesigned Accord, because it picks out some of the deficiencies of the Accord, and because it gives some credibility to the Malibu, the Accord folks think it's bunk. That bias mentioned sounds a little like the many reports from the car mags and CR who have loved anything Hondic through the decades. Sour grapes.
This trend is exactly what I said years back about GM's offerings and where they improved things, it would always be that they don't have this one feature that the XXXmobile has that the writer likes (and that's okay) but what's not okay is that the car is just junk because it doesn't have this or doesn't have that or doesn't do 0-90 in 6 seconds--as if 99.9% of people drove their car like that.
Come on. Malibu is giving them some competition again. The writer is doing what ever other car writer does: he's giving his perception of and his opinion of the Malibu and Accord.
Welcome to the club.
#446 of 804 Re: This is a hoot [imidazol97]
Jan 26, 2008 (2:24 pm)
Because the article doesn't fall over itself praising the redesigned Accord, because it picks out some of the deficiencies of the Accord, and because it gives some credibility to the Malibu, the Accord folks think it's bunk.
That's one reason I thought it was a 'good' article, sure to get a reaction. Sure, some may disagree with opinions, it interesting to hear them blamed on 'bias'.
#447 of 804 Re: This is a hoot [texases]
Jan 26, 2008 (4:24 pm)
Although the 07 Honda I sat in last visit to a dealer didn't impress me as other than minima and I haven't been in a 2008 Accord, I would probably be happy with either car. The Malibu I sat in was a high model... But what is funny is that when the bias was against GM/Ford, it was okay to have it because, well, the cars were just better. Well,..., the Malibu just got better.
I have be careful about saying I'd never own a certain brand. Long ago I swore I'd never own another (big three brand) and I ended up winning one in a contest.
#448 of 804 Re: Toyota in tight race for No. 1 with GM [blufz1]
Jan 27, 2008 (6:26 am)
Best advice is to buy any car later in the model run.
The problem with that is when the cars are re-designed, your car suddenly feels 'old', as our 2003 Odyssey did when they were re-designed in 2005. When you buy a car earlier in the cycle, it looks and feels fresh longer.
#449 of 804 Re: Toyota in tight race for No. 1 with GM [drwilsc]
Jan 27, 2008 (8:42 pm)
That's not always true. I have a 2006 Accord, and am glad I didn't wait on the 2008 Accord. It is much less desirable to me - cheaper interior, lower real-world economy, heavier without offering more torque.
My car felt fresh to me since it had a modestly restyled front-end, a completely restyled rear-end with cool LED taillamps (I know, not a biggie, but a unique touch that few other vehicles utilize). The best part is all of the bugs that came with 2003 models (problematic LCD on the stereo system, rattle problems) are less prevailent on later models, including my rattle-free 2006 model.
Not all first-year models will have problems, and not all late-run models will be flawless, however.