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#388 of 636 Always including the Camry... by usa1 Jan 02, 2008 (4:22 pm)
Now that the Camry has finished last in this comparison test AND the other recent V6 comparison test, can you please NOT include it in future tests? I'm tired of hearing how uninspired, dull, and ugly it is.   Just because it sells by the boat loads, does not mean you need to include it. The previous generation Taurus sold a lot of cars through it's life, but it was never in the later comparison tests because people knew it was not worth considering. The same can now be said of the Camry. You can simply state in your next comparison test something like "The Camry was not included because it came in last in recent tests."   Any bets on whether the tired Camry will be trotted out dutifully in future tests? Sigh. Replies to this message: ucisilentbob (Jan 02, 2008 4:34 pm)
#389 of 636 Re: Always including the Camry... [usa1] by ucisilentbob Jan 02, 2008 (4:34 pm)
Replying to: usa1 (Jan 02, 2008 4:22 pm) OR.... they actually (for once) could test the best looking best handling of the Camry stable. SE.
#390 of 636 Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [ucisilentbob] by eriches Jan 02, 2008 (5:10 pm)
Replying to: ucisilentbob (Jan 02, 2008 3:57 pm) Well, the truth is, silentbob, I don't have a great answer for you. I see your point about the Camry SE, and while we considered that argument, I think we were right to choose the LE (though, yes, I would have preferred one with VSC and alloys). The LE is the quintessential Camry, the one most people buy... Also, it's not always possible to get exactly the configuration we want from the manufacturers, and that is why the Malibu went $80 over. However, our scoring formula does adjust for such discrepancies, though obviously a car with a little extra equipment has a certain subjective advantage. --Erin Replies to this message: texases (Jan 02, 2008 6:39 pm)
#391 of 636 ...Or you could listen to the consumers by eriches Jan 02, 2008 (5:20 pm)
If you're reading the IL comparison test, you might also want to check out the consumer-penned version of this test -- http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/123972/article.html -- which had a somewhat different outcome. --Erin Replies to this message: watercop1 (Jan 03, 2008 7:23 am) bug4 (Jan 03, 2008 7:50 am)
#392 of 636 Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [eriches] by texases Jan 02, 2008 (6:39 pm)
Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 5:10 pm) Also, it's not always possible to get exactly the configuration we want from the manufacturers   You have my sympathy on that - certain combinations can be impossible to find.   I took a look at the scoring formula, and I'd strongly suggest dropping the price component. Price matters, yes, but it matters differently to everyone, and the sticker price can have little to do with the sales price. I'd rather know which is the better car, then buy the best one I can afford. Of course, you have to compare similar price range cars, like you did here, but the range of prices is so small that it shouldn't affect scores.
#393 of 636 Re: ...Or you could listen to the consumers [eriches] by watercop1 Jan 03, 2008 (7:23 am)
Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 5:20 pm) I drive a 2007 Camry LE and agree with both the consumer and Edmunds review. The Camry still suits me fine. My mixed driving yields consistent 28MPG in 60/40 highway/city driving. My commute (45min. each way) required a comfortable drive. My "real world" purchase was $21,500+TTL for LE equipped with AT, sunroof, alloys, body side molding and all wx mats. None of the new Orleans area dealerships had VSC equipped LE's on the lot so Toyota is being stingy with them. The center cubby has outlet and aux jack with a cord cutout to easily add sirius/XM or nav. At the time the Accord was selling at MSRP+. The Aura also was closer to 23K to equip it similiar to my Camry. My wife will be car shopping in 2009. We will definately look at the Malibu and Honda's deisel Accord closely.
#394 of 636 Re: ...Or you could listen to the consumers [eriches] by bug4 Jan 03, 2008 (7:50 am)
Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 5:20 pm) Thanks for participating in the forum! We do a lot of guessing, supposing and theorizing on this forum and its nice to finally get information right from the horses mouth! Thanks
#395 of 636 Re: Why not the SE? [ucisilentbob] by colloquor Jan 03, 2008 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: ucisilentbob (Jan 02, 2008 3:43 pm) Unfortunately, the Camry SE is not available without a sunroof in the Chicago region. Every SE in Illinois and Indiana is delivered with a sunroof. This is one thing I dislike about Toyota's marketing and option packaging. All configurations should be available everywhere in the country.
#396 of 636 Where is Altima and Sonata by irnmdn Jan 03, 2008 (7:21 pm)
Why is Altima and Sonata not in this comparison? Obviously Nissan and Hyundai did not pay edmunds well enough. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jan 03, 2008 9:07 pm)
#397 of 636 Re: Where is Altima and Sonata [irnmdn] by thegraduate Jan 03, 2008 (9:07 pm)
Replying to: irnmdn (Jan 03, 2008 7:21 pm) Why is Altima and Sonata not in this comparison? Obviously Nissan and Hyundai did not pay edmunds well enough.   Because this comparison is set up to be more simple. This compares the top two sellers in the class against a newcomer.   There is already a "Midsize Sedans 2.0" including all three vehicles here, as well as other offerings from Nissan, Hyundai, Ford, Chrysler, etc.   Someone a little bit bitter here? Don't jump to assumptions TOO quickly.

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