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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by elroy5
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Jan 02, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
Why do people complain about the results from comparison tests? They only said what car THEY preferred, out of the cars that were tested. It's only their opinion. Does that mean YOU have to like it too? Indeed not. Are you saying they really liked the Camry or Malibu more, but picked the Accord anyway? I haven't read the comparison yet, but it's obvious which car they liked from the whining going on from Camry and Malibu people.
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Re: Why not the SE? [eriches]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 3:27 pm)
Also, thank you for your replys. In the 2008 V6 Sedan article I sent a letter to the editor via the link on the front page of the article with no response or awknowledgement.
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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by venus537
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
I read your last few posts and got the impression you're a big fan of GM. I'm shocked, I tell you I'm shocked that you found the Malibu to be the better car. You probably know more about cars than road testers from other media outlets too. I know one thing for sure, I know what car would be best for me as you know what car is best for you. Hopefully anyone considering one of these three cars will personally test drive them and make up their own mind up.
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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by elroy5
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
I know more about cars than the average person and maybe more than those who rated these three cars.
Sure you do. Incredible.
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Always including the Camry...
by usa1
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Now that the Camry has finished last in this comparison test AND the other recent V6 comparison test, can you please NOT include it in future tests? I'm tired of hearing how uninspired, dull, and ugly it is.
Just because it sells by the boat loads, does not mean you need to include it. The previous generation Taurus sold a lot of cars through it's life, but it was never in the later comparison tests because people knew it was not worth considering. The same can now be said of the Camry. You can simply state in your next comparison test something like "The Camry was not included because it came in last in recent tests."
Any bets on whether the tired Camry will be trotted out dutifully in future tests? Sigh.
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Re: Always including the Camry... [usa1]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: usa1 (Jan 02, 2008 4:22 pm)
OR.... they actually (for once) could test the best looking best handling of the Camry stable. SE.
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Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [ucisilentbob]
by eriches
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Jan 02, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: ucisilentbob (Jan 02, 2008 3:57 pm)
Well, the truth is, silentbob, I don't have a great answer for you. I see your point about the Camry SE, and while we considered that argument, I think we were right to choose the LE (though, yes, I would have preferred one with VSC and alloys). The LE is the quintessential Camry, the one most people buy... Also, it's not always possible to get exactly the configuration we want from the manufacturers, and that is why the Malibu went $80 over. However, our scoring formula does adjust for such discrepancies, though obviously a car with a little extra equipment has a certain subjective advantage. --Erin
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...Or you could listen to the consumers
by eriches
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Jan 02, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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If you're reading the IL comparison test, you might also want to check out the consumer-penned version of this test -- http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/123972/article.html -- which had a somewhat different outcome. --Erin
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Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [eriches]
by texases
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Jan 02, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 5:10 pm)
Also, it's not always possible to get exactly the configuration we want from the manufacturers
You have my sympathy on that - certain combinations can be impossible to find.
I took a look at the scoring formula, and I'd strongly suggest dropping the price component. Price matters, yes, but it matters differently to everyone, and the sticker price can have little to do with the sales price. I'd rather know which is the better car, then buy the best one I can afford. Of course, you have to compare similar price range cars, like you did here, but the range of prices is so small that it shouldn't affect scores.
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Re: ...Or you could listen to the consumers [eriches]
by watercop1
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Jan 03, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 5:20 pm)
I drive a 2007 Camry LE and agree with both the consumer and Edmunds review. The Camry still suits me fine. My mixed driving yields consistent 28MPG in 60/40 highway/city driving. My commute (45min. each way) required a comfortable drive. My "real world" purchase was $21,500+TTL for LE equipped with AT, sunroof, alloys, body side molding and all wx mats. None of the new Orleans area dealerships had VSC equipped LE's on the lot so Toyota is being stingy with them. The center cubby has outlet and aux jack with a cord cutout to easily add sirius/XM or nav. At the time the Accord was selling at MSRP+. The Aura also was closer to 23K to equip it similiar to my Camry. My wife will be car shopping in 2009. We will definately look at the Malibu and Honda's deisel Accord closely.
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