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Re: Why not the SE? [eriches]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 3:27 pm)
A base Toyota Camry SE I4 can be had without the moonroof for less than $23,000. So I don't believe that's a good enough reason. The only reason that doesn't happen is cause you have to pay MSRP for that configuration (custom order from the dealer). Whereas if you take a base Toyota Camry SE I4 with the moonroof option off the lot you can make a deal for it for less than the MSRP of the Base SE I4 w/o moonroof.
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Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [eriches]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 2:58 pm)
If that price point were SO specific, than why was the Malibu allowed to break that ceiling?
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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by elroy5
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Jan 02, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
Why do people complain about the results from comparison tests? They only said what car THEY preferred, out of the cars that were tested. It's only their opinion. Does that mean YOU have to like it too? Indeed not. Are you saying they really liked the Camry or Malibu more, but picked the Accord anyway? I haven't read the comparison yet, but it's obvious which car they liked from the whining going on from Camry and Malibu people.
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Re: Why not the SE? [eriches]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: eriches (Jan 02, 2008 3:27 pm)
Also, thank you for your replys. In the 2008 V6 Sedan article I sent a letter to the editor via the link on the front page of the article with no response or awknowledgement.
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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by venus537
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
I read your last few posts and got the impression you're a big fan of GM. I'm shocked, I tell you I'm shocked that you found the Malibu to be the better car. You probably know more about cars than road testers from other media outlets too. I know one thing for sure, I know what car would be best for me as you know what car is best for you. Hopefully anyone considering one of these three cars will personally test drive them and make up their own mind up.
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Re: Camry versus,Accord versus Malibu [jray4]
by elroy5
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: jray4 (Jan 02, 2008 3:40 pm)
I know more about cars than the average person and maybe more than those who rated these three cars.
Sure you do. Incredible.
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Always including the Camry...
by usa1
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Now that the Camry has finished last in this comparison test AND the other recent V6 comparison test, can you please NOT include it in future tests? I'm tired of hearing how uninspired, dull, and ugly it is.
Just because it sells by the boat loads, does not mean you need to include it. The previous generation Taurus sold a lot of cars through it's life, but it was never in the later comparison tests because people knew it was not worth considering. The same can now be said of the Camry. You can simply state in your next comparison test something like "The Camry was not included because it came in last in recent tests."
Any bets on whether the tired Camry will be trotted out dutifully in future tests? Sigh.
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Re: Always including the Camry... [usa1]
by ucisilentbob
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Jan 02, 2008 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: usa1 (Jan 02, 2008 4:22 pm)
OR.... they actually (for once) could test the best looking best handling of the Camry stable. SE.
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- #390 of 630
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Re: 2008 Comparison Test Available! [ucisilentbob]
by eriches
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Jan 02, 2008 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: ucisilentbob (Jan 02, 2008 3:57 pm)
Well, the truth is, silentbob, I don't have a great answer for you. I see your point about the Camry SE, and while we considered that argument, I think we were right to choose the LE (though, yes, I would have preferred one with VSC and alloys). The LE is the quintessential Camry, the one most people buy... Also, it's not always possible to get exactly the configuration we want from the manufacturers, and that is why the Malibu went $80 over. However, our scoring formula does adjust for such discrepancies, though obviously a car with a little extra equipment has a certain subjective advantage. --Erin
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...Or you could listen to the consumers
by eriches
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Jan 02, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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If you're reading the IL comparison test, you might also want to check out the consumer-penned version of this test -- http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/123972/article.html -- which had a somewhat different outcome. --Erin
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