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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 07, 2007 3:14 pm) Based on my experience with my 2001 Malibu, I totally agree with you. As I mentioned in my early messages, I bought a brand-new 2001 Malibu in 2001. Had innumerable problems, some of which couldn't be fixed by Chevy dealerships. Got bogged down on the road nemerous times (a very embarrassing and humiliating situation). Spent almost $4000 in repare plus tow trucks within 5 years. Traded in for less than $3000 in 2006 (The car was only 5 year old with only 60,000 miles). What a classic piece of junk they built! |
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Replying to: dtownfb (Mar 07, 2007 1:29 pm) How dare you complained about your 2001 Malibu. Did you read my story about my 2001 Malibu. If not, please do so! Mine is much worse than yours. After reading my story, you might agree with me that you were still lucky and shouldn't have complained. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 07, 2007 3:14 pm) input will move us closer to the truth. Thank you, elroy5, for giving the specific numbers -- we have something to compare now. ,-- elroy5 [ Mar 07, 2007 (2:14 pm) ] | | Where do you get these numbers from? The base Malibu is $17,100 and | the base Camry is $18,500. I assume you are quoting the price that the car can be taken out of the door, with the destination charge but no fees and taxes included -- is that right? I'll take your word for it: $18.5K for the Camry. $17K for a base Malibu is totally out of question. No person in his sound mind will pay anything close to it (read these boards). In the beginning of the year 2006 I bought mine for $14K (pre-GM card earinigs). My car is actualy very well equipped: the preferred group 1SB, including: * Cruise Control * RDS Radio * Driver seat lumbar * Front seat map pockets * Remote keyless entry * Floor mats * Cargo convenience nets * Power adjustable brake and accelerator pedals. In addition it has: * XM Radio ($325) -- (the joy of having which I cannot overestimate) * Remote Starter ($150) The car's list price is $21,020. The Red Tag Event price -- $16,419.40 (I just looked at the sticker et al). So, before I applied my GM card earnings, my price was $14,000 -- for not quite a base car, mind you. That is the difference of $4,500 between my price and the Camry price you are quoting. Out of curiosity, what options would the $18.5K Camry include? If you want me to admit my wrongness and say that instead of $7K I quoted in my previous message, the difference in price should have been stated as $4.5, I am fine with that. But realistically, consider that many GM cars are being bought by GM Card holders, with the earnings as high as $3,500 (no, I didn't have that much  .) So, it is not impossible for a savvy Malibu shopper to get to the difference of $4.5 + $3.5 = $8.0K. $8,000 might be an extreme case -- and I didn't quote that. But coming to the table with $2,000 in GM Card earining is very typical, if you read Edmunds.com boards (I bought my first Malibu with more than that). Does my price comparison still look far-fetched? | I sold my 12 year old Accord (140k miles) for $5,000. You would be | lucky to get that for a Malibu half that old, with half the | miles. Can't exactly compare the 12 year old Accord to a 12 year old | Malibu because there is no such thing as a 12 year old Malibu. Couldn't be, in the year 2007, for the car that began to be produced in the year 2004. We might see when we get to the year 2016. I don't know -- and you don't. Guys, sorry for repeating what has been said a gazillion times here, on Edmunds.com: Malibu 2004 and the previous Malibu are two different cars. Totally. Nothing in common but the name. |
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Replying to: dtownfb (Mar 07, 2007 1:29 pm) | | Not sure what you are reading in the Malibu forum but I see a lot of | issues that are carried over form other GM models (alternator, | electrical issues) and previous generation Malibus. Look, if you are reading the Malibu forums and are coming to the conclusion that the 2004+ Malibu has a lot of problems, I totally respect your opinion -- you are basing it on the experience of the real people. My personal impression has been, after reading these boards rather attentively for a long time, that the new Malibu is not problem-ridden -- most problems, in my observation, were reported for Maxx and/or the first model year -- 2004. Many problems have been also fixed by the dealerships. That is my personal impression. I admit I started to read the Malibu boards less attentively about half-a-year ago when I came to the conclusion that most problems reported there were for the old Malibu -- pre-2004. I just have no interest in reading about a different car, sorry. Now, when you talk about seeing "a lot of issues that are carried over form other GM models" --- are you sure you see them for post-2004 Malibu? No irony here -- this is a serious question. If you answer "yes", I'll have to go back and catch up with the messages. If you are not sure, I'll save the effort. Thanks!
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 07, 2007 5:11 pm) You seemed to argue that the post-2004 Malibu has had few or no issues. In my opinion, your argument is misleading. Since we're now in 2007, most of the post-2004 Malibu's have not passed the 3-year bumper-to-bumper warranty yet. When there is an issue, the owner usually can get it fixed for free, and so the owner tends to be quiet about it. Besides, one's ego is also at play here. Americans tend to be or try to be confident, and sometimes they don't want their friends to think that they made a wrong choice and bought a wrong vehicle. Based on my experience, the Malibu is like a timed bomb. As soon as the bumper-to-bumper warranty expires, the health of the car will deteriorate drastically. That was exactly the case with my 2001 Malibu. When I complained to a Chevy dealership about having to make frequent repair visits, a service rep at the dealership joked that they loved to see me come in for service (because my repair visits generated a lot of revenue for the dealership). Ironically, a dealership can earn a lot more money simply by selling you a crappy vehicle, because later you will have to pay thousands of dollars to the dealership for repairing the vehicle. For those daring people who are going to buy a Chevy Malibu, I highly recommend that you consider buying an extended warranty which will surely be a good investment. You may or may not need an extended warranty for a Toyota, but you definitely need one for a Chevy Malibu based on my experience.
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Replying to: bateejeff (Mar 07, 2007 8:53 pm) | | You seemed to argue that the post-2004 Malibu has had few or no | issues. Yup, I am ready to say I am arguing the former: few issues. | In my opinion, your argument is misleading. In what sense? I am not saying the Malibu-2005 will not have many issues in the year 2010. I don't know. Do you? I am saying it has few issues now. (Actually, I don't know what issues it has, class-wise.) Is this not true? Are you ready to say that you are claiming the opposite: that Malibu 2004+ has many issues now? If so, what would they be? If so, what would be your source of information? | Since we're now in 2007, most of the post-2004 Malibu's have not | passed the 3-year bumper-to-bumper warranty yet. I don't know about "most" but many did: the warranty expires at 3-years or 36,000 miles. It seems to me that more people cross 36K miles before they cross 3 years. (Mark this as my speculation.) | When there is an issue, the owner usually can get it fixed for free, | and so the owner tends to be quiet about it. Oh, come on, nobody enjoys going even for warranty repairs. People are not quiet about their bad experience -- look at the Maxx boards, e.g. | Besides, one's ego is also at play here. Americans tend to be or try | to be confident, and sometimes they don't want their friends to | think that they made a wrong choice and bought a wrong vehicle. True. And this applies to other cars, too. | Based on my experience, the Malibu You don't have experience with this car, do you? *The* Malibu, *this* Malibu, not *that* Malibu? | is like a timed bomb. As soon as the bumper-to-bumper warranty | expires, the health of the car will deteriorate drastically. That | was exactly the case with my 2001 Malibu. Well, I don't have experience with that Malibu -- I can't comment on it.
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Replying to: bateejeff (Mar 07, 2007 8:53 pm) |
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 07, 2007 5:11 pm) Don't get me wrong. the current Malibu is a nice car. If you are looking for basic transportation, you'll be happy. After that experience with the 2001 malibu and my current 2000 Olds Intrigue, I need to stay away from GM for a while. |
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| I was surprised to see "Malibu vs. Camry." To me, there shouldn't even be a comparisson. But thats just my pinion. | |
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 07, 2007 10:00 pm) the malibu is NOT $7,000 less than a comparable Camcord. more like $2,000. Now, referring to malexbu's circular, annoying post. Clearly, no one has experienced massive troubles with a 2004+ malibu. it's been three years. THAT IS WHY we look at 2001 malibu's. Because the same company is making it, and even if the underpinnings and 80% of the engineering changes, the best you can do is judge the new car's future maintenance based on the previous generation's maintenance. so comments like "Well, I don't have experience with that Malibu -- I can't comment on it." are asinine and pointless. It's like 99% of malibu's breaking down, and you saying "well i know one guy who's malibu didn't break down, so I think the malibu is A-OK". Look, here's what it comes down to. If you want to "Buy American" (despite Honda/Toyota factories in the US, etc) then fine, buy a Malibu. But if you're looking for the best car for the money, you'd be MUCH MUCH MUCH better off buying an accord/camry in terms of quality, Quality, QUALITY, consistency, resale value, performance, engineering THOUGHT, and basically everything. Spend the extra $2,000, and you'll recoup $4,000 in 6 years.
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