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Replying to: bateejeff (Mar 04, 2007 12:22 pm) |
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Replying to: shadow5599 (Jun 23, 2006 7:36 am) This statement is very familiar. It's the same thing they said about the 97-02 Malibu. In 97 it was named "Car of the year" and was "recomened" by Consumer Reports. I have experience with the 01 Malibu, and it is a very crude car. "Quality and Refinement" are not words I would use to describe the Malibu. Some people are not concerned with quality and refinement, and just want a basic A to B car. I am totally ok with that. Everyone has their own wants and needs. I do appreciate Quality and Refinement, and I am willing to pay extra for it. The Malibu competes well with cars in it's own price range. It does not compete well at all, with the Accord IMO. |
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| I have had Chevy's and Toyota's and all I can say if you like the Malibu I am happy for you but I really think this is a GM employee trying to keep his job. I had a 10 year old Toyota that was still worth $5,000. I've had 3 year old Chevy's that weren't worth that much. | |
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Replying to: lovetocamp (Mar 06, 2007 7:18 pm) | | This statement is very familiar. It's the same thing they said about | the 97-02 Malibu. In 97 it was named "Car of the year" and was | "recomened" by Consumer Reports. I have experience with the 01 | Malibu, and it is a very crude car. I guess we should be concerned with the new (2004+) Malibu now that we are in the year 2007  | "Quality and Refinement" are not words I would use to describe the Malibu. You speak from the personal experience with a Malibu 2004+? | Some people are not concerned with quality and refinement, and just | want a basic A to B car. I am totally ok with that. Everyone has | their own wants and needs. I do appreciate Quality and Refinement, | and I am willing to pay extra for it. And if Q&R were coming on the cheap, you'd mind? Seriously, do you have anything to say about Malibu 2004+ based not on your reading but on the owning or at least driving? | The Malibu competes well with cars in it's own price range. What else could Chevy wish? | It does not compete well at all, with the Accord IMO. Does Accord compete well with BMW? Wanna say that Accord and BMW are in different price ranges? Malibu should beat the cars 1.5 (or 2?) times more expensive, but the same should not apply to Accord? ,-- lovetocamp [ Mar 06, 2007 (7:18 pm) ] | | I had a 10 year old Toyota that was still worth $5,000. I've had 3 | year old Chevy's that weren't worth that much. Chevy and Toyota's depreciation are clearly different and if this is the determining factor in buying, well, one should go to Toyota without hesitation. But this is not everybody's significant factor -- not for me, in particular. What about the "price to quality" ratios in the new cars? How does, say, base Malibu 2006 sedan stack up against a base Camry or Accord? This is a serios question -- I don't know the answer. I *feel* as if I know it -- but I don't know for a fact. Obviously, Camry and Accord are excellent cars -- one needs to spend just a little time in each to feel that. But so Malibu feels to many. Obviously, Camry and Accord have excellent reliability reputions (disputed at times, at least for the new Camry, AFAIU). But so Malibu apparently does (and read Edmunds.com for that, not the joke of "Consumer Report", please). If you placed a new base Camry and Accord in front of me and said, "Pick one -- it's yours for the same money" (let's say, "free"), I wouldn't know which one to pick. I'd need to do some research to make the decision. (I'd probably end up with the Accord, but I am not quite certain.) If you did the same placing a base Malibu and one of Camry or Accord in front of me -- "Take either -- same price", I would not hesitate a moment -- I'd pick the Camry or Accord on the spot. Not because I have reservations about Malibu (I don't). Not because I *know* that Camcord is a better car (I don't). Just because for the same price a Camcord would be a better deal than Malibu (and, as opposed to a similar imaginary experiment with Malibu agains Cadillac, I wouldn't need to worry about the anti-Malibu repairs). But this is *for the same price*. In real life, a base Malibu is vastly less expensive than a Camcord, with no established inferiority I am aware of. So, why should I pay more to buy the latter? To possibly get some of my money back in 10 years?.. Sorry, there are better investment ideas than that -- kid yourself if you wish but I'll park my $7K+ elsewhere and in 10 years we'll see if you are able to sell your Camry for $7K+ more than I will my Malibu. Am I wrong with the numbers? Counterarguments, anybody?
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| How much is a loaded Malibu? I don't know how much these cars are going for. Someone care to tell me? I'd assume a loaded Malibu SS would compete best with the Accord (it comes closest to horsepower with the Accord (Honda has 244), still doesn't have a 5-speed auto though. | |
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 06, 2007 8:24 pm) Even the current model Malibu is below the quality of the Accord and Camry. Haven't driven one (and don't want to) but sat in one at a recent car show. The Camry and Accord are a bit nicer. The fact they can sell them for a couple of thousand more for similar trim level tells me others agree. Remember Americans vote with their pocketbooks. The 2008 Malibu looks promising but it will take a couple model years before oyu see sales rise. It's takes time for people to forget a bad experience. Not sure what you are reading in the Malibu forum but I see a lot of issues that are carried over form other GM models (alternator, electrical issues) and previous generation Malibus. Maybe the joke, CR, is right. |
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 06, 2007 8:24 pm) I respectfully disagree with your assessment of potential saving by buying a malibu vs. a Camry. Based on my experience with 2001 Malibu ($4000 in repairs and tow truck in just 5 years!), I doubt that you can park the $7K of the so-called "saving" for long as an investment. I bet you will have to pay a hefty early withdrawal penalty to get money out of your CD in order to pay for the reparing and towing of your Malibu. Based on my 2001 Malibu, I would estimate that within 10 years you might have spend more than $7K in repairs plus tow truck bills. And then, when you sell or trade in your Malibu, you will literally get nothing as compared to a few grands you might get if you sell or trade in a 10-year old Camry. It is simple math which doesn't need a Ph.D. to figure out. |
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Replying to: malexbu (Mar 06, 2007 8:24 pm) park my $7K+ elsewhere and in 10 years we'll see if you are able to sell your Camry for $7K+ more than I will my Malibu. Where do you get these numbers from? The base Malibu is $17,100, and the base Camry is $18,500. Are you comparing the base Malibu to a "top of the line" Camry? Talk about different classes. Sure, you can pay $7k more for a Camcord if you want every option available. The Malibu is no competition for these models. I sold my 12 year old Accord (140k miles) for $5,000. You would be lucky to get that for a Malibu half that old, with half the miles. Can't exactly compare the 12 year old Accord to a 12 year old Malibu  because there is no such thing as a 12 year old Malibu.
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 07, 2007 2:14 pm) Based on my experience with my 2001 Malibu, I totally agree with you. As I mentioned in my early messages, I bought a brand-new 2001 Malibu in 2001. Had innumerable problems, some of which couldn't be fixed by Chevy dealerships. Got bogged down on the road nemerous times (a very embarrassing and humiliating situation). Spent almost $4000 in repare plus tow trucks within 5 years. Traded in for less than $3000 in 2006 (The car was only 5 year old with only 60,000 miles). What a classic piece of junk they built! |
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