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Toyota Camry, Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#192 of 804 Re: Data. [dave8697]
Mar 24, 2007 (9:23 pm)
The Honda SE V6 is on the Honda website. I used the price they suggest on the Intellichoice website, and the Honda dealer said fine. I then haggled over the trade-in and we came to agreement on that. LOOK HERE I bought the SEV6, as it had everything I wanted in a car. It does not have the lumbar support as an adjustable, but the seat fits me OK. It has a 6 CD changer, stability control, and other good stuff. What I did not want is the moon roof, as those take away 2.3" of head room, and I saw no use for the thing anyway. So the deal for me = SE V6. Right price and great value. It has 17" alloy wheels instead of plastic hub caps, and the tires are Michelins. Absolutely the best deal around.
The Aura XR is also a decent car. Not worth the extra money though, and I found all on the lot were loaded on up. As for the New Malibu to come, well let's say it will likely be a pretty fair deal. I am confident though, I got the best deal. As for the Camry, I would give it another year to be sure the bugs which can occur the first year, are worked on out. My Dad has a 2000 year Camry which is fairly good, though there is always the possibility of sludge problems occurring for that model year. The car has been good, but not as good, IMHO as his 1991 which looked like new after 9 years. The Accord is just more fun to drive and the best deal, so I did not consider the Camry. I would consider a Camry as a lower choice for me personally than the Aura XR.
#193 of 804 Re: Data. [m1miata]
Mar 24, 2007 (10:29 pm)
Consider a ford fusion its not your typical ford at all. It'll outhandle and outbrake any of the japanese brands your asking about. Also has more style to it, stands out more. And its thousands cheaper than a honda or toyota with a better warranty and it has very good predicted reliability. AWD is available which isn't on the other cars. It may not have the power of the other cars but its plenty. MPG isn't bad either (28mpg with a V6FWD) I shopped around looking at the same cars listed here and went with a loaded fusion V6 AWD for thousands less than the japanese brands. Very happy
#194 of 804 Re: Data. [otaku18]
Mar 24, 2007 (10:43 pm)
The main thing is that you are pleased with the purchase. I doubt it will cost you less. The Accord SEV6, with discounts, is a very good price right now, and the resale will be very much higher than the Ford. As for handling, the Accord is excellent. It is possible the Fusion could be a degree better in some of the handling scoring. That said, you can toss the Accord into turns and come out the other end safely, and with some good feel. The car comes with stability control, six CD changer, and 17" Michelin tires on alloy wheels as standard for the SE V6. The instrument panel lighting is excellent. The interior is of very good quality. The exterior styling is smooth-elegant, and should remain so over time. The engine is very smooth up to the highest rev point. The 0-60 is 6.6 sec. Comes with all the side air bags, and other safety items. Can find no weakness to the car made in Ohio, USA.
The Fusion will be a fun car for you to own, no doubt. With the six, it is pretty quick, and the steering is pretty good. The look is fresh. As for the Fusion not being the typical Ford? Well, it will be in the future if they use more Mazda platforms. They do have Volvo to play with too.
#195 of 804 Re: Data. [otaku18]
Mar 24, 2007 (10:47 pm)
I agree...the Fusion is probably the best jap killer around now, based on what I've read. I havent tried one but I will next time
#196 of 804 Re: Data. [dave8697]
Mar 25, 2007 (5:42 am)
What am I missing here. Isn't $25,895 the starting point for Accords with V6 and auto? Where do they sell SE's?
in Canada. all that was based on Canadian hondas and prices in canadian dollars.
#197 of 804 Re: Data. [shadow5599]
Mar 25, 2007 (10:26 am)
Actually the Aura XR is current competition to Japan makes. The New Malibu, once out, will compete with the Aura and the rest of the worlds mid-sized in this price range. Fusion is a competent car, but no killer package. Same goes for the Mazda6. Unless the new one is a hit, you can see those cars not moving off the lots. I could have gotten $5K off. Ford is in serious trouble, and GM is still in the woods, though using a better compass.
#198 of 804 The Shadow Knows
Mar 25, 2007 (10:33 am)
Shadow,what's you opinion longevity wise of the 3.4/3.5 vs. 3.8/3.9 gm motors?
#199 of 804 Re: Data. [shadow5599]
Mar 25, 2007 (1:23 pm)
the Fusion will be competitive to the 'Japanese' models if and when it gets rid of that 3.0 V6, and the 4 cylinder, while OK, is still not up to Honda's benchmark and/or Nissan's power.
#200 of 804 Re: Data. [yury]
Mar 25, 2007 (1:28 pm)
the 153ho maybe the old pushrod Vulcan V6, which is ancient even by Ford's standards. The 24 valve 3.0 DT, at 200hp is a little more agreeable in a car the Taurus' size although it is so far behind the Camcordima offerings that they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence - which I think I just did
#201 of 804 Re: The Shadow Knows [blufz1]
Mar 25, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Based on GM motors in the past I see no reason why the 3.5 isnt going to be as good or better. I just sold my van with a 305 that had almost 300,000 kms and it had never been touched and still ran smooth and quiet. I think the biggest problem these days with any engine is the use of 2 different alloys, such as aluminum heads on iron blocks. The expansion rates are different so eventually can cause gasket problems. That problem is certainly not confined to North American vehicles.
I've actually never had serious engine problems on any of my North American vehicles other than a 289 in a 67 Cougar I bought that had the crap driven out of it. I had to do the main bearings in it. My 03 Malibu had a 3.1 with some piston slap noise, but again that problem isnt confined to North American engines.
My 3.5 now at 35,000 kms is very quiet and smooth.
I've owned vehicles with 289, 225, 302, 350, 305, 360, 3.5L 3.8, 3.1, 1.9. The only non pushrod engine in that group is the 1.9, in my kids Escort. It's one of the more noisier engines I've owned.
Sometimes what is considered old technology isnt so bad. The pushrod engines of the world are solid, tough, time proven engines. And when you can get the fuel economy out of a 3.5 that GM has done, that's a combination tough to beat.