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#917 of 921 Re: Conversion kit from Brazil any better? [gagrice] by galonga Oct 07, 2009 (6:03 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 07, 2009 5:14 pm) They use ethanol because it´s CHEAP, not because of "political" reasons as you point out.   And NOTHING went wrong!   In fact, the country rid itself of oil imports because of that, something we americans try and can´t achieve!   And now 85% of all cars are flex and they STILL make ethanol only cars.   Don´t believe me? I lived in Brazil, you obviously did not even visit the country!   So please don´t write stuff like that: it really makes you look really uninformed. Replies to this message: kipk (Oct 07, 2009 7:05 am) texases (Oct 07, 2009 7:18 am) fezo (Oct 07, 2009 7:42 am)
#918 of 921 Re: Conversion kit from Brazil any better? [galonga] by kipk Oct 07, 2009 (7:05 am)
Replying to: galonga (Oct 07, 2009 6:03 am) "In fact, the country rid itself of oil imports because of that, ..."   Are they not using any dino fuels now?   "And now 85% of all cars are flex and they STILL make ethanol only cars."   What about the 15% that are not "Flex" ? Are they just abandoned because they are not set up to burn Ethanol?   Thanks, Kip Replies to this message: texases (Oct 07, 2009 7:18 am) fezo (Oct 07, 2009 7:42 am)
#919 of 921 Re: Conversion kit from Brazil any better? [kipk] by texases Oct 07, 2009 (7:18 am)
Replying to: kipk (Oct 07, 2009 7:05 am) Brazil is consuming over 2 million barrels of oil per day, has been for years, and it's increasing. The reason they're no longer importing oil is the amazing string of large offshore oil discoveries made over the last two decades. That's a very different way to become 'energy independent'! read more here Replies to this message: fezo (Oct 07, 2009 7:42 am)
#920 of 921 Re: Conversion kit from Brazil any better? [texases] by fezo Oct 07, 2009 (7:42 am)
Replying to: texases (Oct 07, 2009 7:18 am) Thank you. That is correct.   Brazil is set up to make use of whatever is cheapest to run at the time. Their ethanol costs way less that ours because they make it from sugar cane which is a far superior source than corn.   And of course they don't have to pay a 56 cent tariff to themselves...
#921 of 921 Thank you gentlemen by gagrice Oct 07, 2009 (10:53 am)
For correcting our uninformed friend from Brazil.   With sugar prices going up, look for Brazil to abandon ethanol as they have done in the past.

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