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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Oct 03, 2009 12:30 pm) Some of this is a repeat of my above post, just trying to drive home a thought. Quality may seem initially to cost more, but may actually be the least expensive in the long run. A while back a local Gas station, changed from Texaco to Shell and lowered the price to just a little more than the local "Flash Foods" station. FWIW: I've seen Marathon,Flash Foods and Exxon tankers filling the tanks at Flash Foods. Thought I would give Shell a try as they have always advertised superior mileage and now are advertising that they clean fuel systems and valves better than the others. Yeah, I know advertising is advertising, but thought I would prove them wrong. As it turned out my Pilot increased mileage about 10%, Went from 18-19 mpg local driving to 20-21 mpg. Hyway driving increased about the same. Now, the Shell is a nickel or so higher than the "FF" brands. Therefore it cost about 2.5% more for Shell but we get 10% better mileage. Plus the Shell just might run a bit cleaner in the engine. Seems to me like a win-win situation. I've run 6-8 tanks of the Shell and the mileage is holding. With that in mind, the Shell would have to go to 23 cents higher than the FF for break even cost vs mileage of the two.. Kip |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 07, 2009 5:14 pm) And NOTHING went wrong! In fact, the country rid itself of oil imports because of that, something we americans try and canīt achieve! And now 85% of all cars are flex and they STILL make ethanol only cars. Donīt believe me? I lived in Brazil, you obviously did not even visit the country! So please donīt write stuff like that: it really makes you look really uninformed.
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Replying to: galonga (Oct 07, 2009 6:03 am) Are they not using any dino fuels now? "And now 85% of all cars are flex and they STILL make ethanol only cars." What about the 15% that are not "Flex" ? Are they just abandoned because they are not set up to burn Ethanol? Thanks, Kip
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Replying to: kipk (Oct 07, 2009 7:05 am) read more here
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Replying to: texases (Oct 07, 2009 7:18 am) Brazil is set up to make use of whatever is cheapest to run at the time. Their ethanol costs way less that ours because they make it from sugar cane which is a far superior source than corn. And of course they don't have to pay a 56 cent tariff to themselves... |
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For correcting our uninformed friend from Brazil. With sugar prices going up, look for Brazil to abandon ethanol as they have done in the past. |
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