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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 03, 2008 5:52 am) Sadly most of the sugar growers are gone from Hawaii. None left on the Big Island. A bit left on Maui. I think they are selling off the last of the cane land on Kauai. It seems that I read Oprah and Bette Midler are buying a lot of it. If Congress were serious about ethanol replacing any of our fossil fuel they would lift the 53 cent tariff on Brazilian ethanol. The sooner if becomes a fair market commodity the sooner we will know if it is viable. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 03, 2008 5:29 am) Well that should only take another 5 to 10 years to pass. Remember that when you are talking about Government and time you have to think in geological speeds.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 03, 2008 6:25 am) |
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One bushel of corn can make 2.7 gallons of ethanol. That works out to a cost of $2.68 per gallon of ethanol just for the corn feedstock. At those prices the ethanol plants are going to need to charge $4 a gallon just to break even. And since ethanol will only get you 70% as far, the adjusted price for E85 could be over $5 a gallon.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 6:23 pm) AAA says that E85 adjusted for mileage is about 36 cents per gallon more expensive than Regular unleaded Nation wide. http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 6:23 pm) There is a lot of land under water that will take weeks if not months to dry to the point that any crops can be planted.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 12, 2008 8:11 pm) 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 12, 2008 8:05 pm)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jun 12, 2008 6:23 pm)
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Replying to: tfb27 (Jun 13, 2008 3:27 pm) And how do you think that ethanol, that has done nothing to cut importation of foreign oil, is helping reduce food and gas prices? Don't you find it odd that as soon as the ethanol mandate was passed by Congress that gas prices started going up along with oil prices? Or the price of corn has risen dramatically since the mandate. That Wheat and Soy crops were not planted to make room for the boom in corn? Or was that just all coincidence? If you are one of the beneficiaries of the ethanol boondoggle, I fully understand your position. If you are just wanting an alternative no matter what the cost in human suffering I do not understand. I will not argue that ethanol is not a viable alternative fuel. It is the use of food for bio fuels I find ridiculous. If it was just about ethanol, we would remove the tariff from Brazilian ethanol and get them to produce it with sugar cane. That makes more sense.
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