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The member comments say it all. I think Miss Sharon Begley should find other topics to write about. |
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And tell me just why should I believe the ramblings of a space scientist like Robert Zubrin, with an agenda? I think your assessment of those of us that totally disagree with you is repulsive. I am not sure why you feel that name calling will convince us that know the truth about ethanol to change our views. Not one to believe in coincidence. I find it most coincidental that the price of oil and food have risen sharply with the expansion of Ethanol production from Corn. Last check you have one poster here that sells E85 conversion kits that believes the lies about ethanol....You are a minority here and in the country as a whole. Hope ethanol is making you wealthy at the rest of our expense. PS Zubrin advocates dropping the tariff on Brazilian ethanol. That to me would signal a serious attempt to cut oil imports. He also believes that hydrogen is a hoax. So we are in partial agreement. which means that we could drop our current tariffs against Latin American sugar-ethanol. |
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What, another ethanol apologists' ramblings? Don't think so. The ethanol program, as currently implemented in the US, has increased all grain and food prices through crop shifts, and is doing nothing for energy self sufficiency. P.S. Sorry, this idiot isn't shutting up... 
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Unlike corn ethanol that uses about as much fossil fuel as it replaces, Sorghum may be a good alternative. A sugary sap inside the plant's stalk, which grow as tall as 12 feet, can be turned into a potent biofuel, and experts and companies are studying its potential with hopes that farmers will want to plant more of it. Ethanol made from the stalk's juice has four times the energy yield of the corn-based ethanol, which is already in the marketplace unlike sweet sorghum. Sweet sorghum produces about eight units of energy for every unit of energy used in its production. That's about the same as sugarcane but four times as much as corn. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_re_us/farm_scene_sweet_sorghum_ethanol-
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Replying to: gagrice (May 14, 2008 6:00 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (May 14, 2008 6:32 am) |
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Gagrice did none of those statistics make any sense to you. The gorilla in this room is OIL!!! Ethanol only took 3.3 billion bushels of the 13.3 billion we produced. There is more corn available right now than there was at this time last year. Soybeans are also a major cause of the rise in corn prices, beans are at an all time low with the price being driven everyday by the crude market which is directly correlated to soybean oil. Oil is the driver behind this rapid increase. Ethanol has had a slight increase but use yesterday as an example. Oil was up $2 a barrel, Soybeans were up 34 cents a bushel, corn was down 9 cents a bushel. Look at that nice correlation, ethanol has no impact right there, soybeans are food which is DIRECTLY influenced by the crude market.
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So what that corn was down 9 cents YESTERDAY? Take a look at the chart of corn futures over the last year from the Chicago Board of Trade
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Replying to: nascar57 (May 14, 2008 8:23 am) I find it shameful and embarrassing that our government continues to promote and support its use on such a grand scale. |
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