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Honda CR-V, Heating / Cooling, SUV
#2110 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [kkoka1]
Oct 05, 2012 (11:48 pm)
This may not help you much, but I'll give it a try.
1. No one would prevent you from calling Honda and asking for reimbursement. It's worth a try (but I wouldn't count on them helping). They are likely to tell you that 92,000 miles is a lot of mileage, and 2002 cars are ten years old. Good luck.
2. The last three times I've repaired the a/c in my 2003 CRV, I have paid less than the $1800 that you mention. However, the first time, I paid much more. Mechanics vary in their prices a lot. In most parts of the country, it probably isn't even possible to find a deal much less than $1800. If you take the car to a dealer, I'll bet they will want well over $3000. Find an independant mechanic that you trust. I've found that mechanics from Asia tend to have much better prices.
3. As far as I've been able to determine, there are no "kits" that will fix this problem. I 'look forward' to another a/c replacement in 50,000 mles (I just had it replaced recently, at 250,000 miles). It's just the price you pay, for owning an otherwise great vehicle.
4. I don't know of any safety issues, other than that when the a/c goes out in Texas in the summer, you'll fry until you fix the problem. Wait... It does happen to disable the dashboard defrost blower flow, which could be a problem in the winter. This defrost issue can be easily overcome, but you'll have to research how to do this on the Internet, because it'slightly too technical for me to explain here.
#2111 of 2218 Cabin stinks of anti-freeze
Oct 06, 2012 (3:00 am)
2000 CR-V: has anyone seen this?
When I put the temp control on 'cold' the cabin reeks of anti-freeze. When it's on 'heat', no odor at all.
A/C compressor exploded many years ago, was never replaced but the drive belt was cut off and the compressor is still there.
There's obviously a leak somewhere but it's very tiny. No liquid on the ground, no wetness in the cabin, no appreciable loss in the radiator.
#2112 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [kkoka1]
Oct 06, 2012 (7:09 am)
I was stranded for hours. The first time my system went out, my car ran fine. I live in the south, it is hot and humid, I work in an office, and need air, so I had it fixed. It went out again within the month, took it back and repaired with another new unit. After warranty expired, went out again, and this time, apparently it locked up and the belt broke, which drives the whole schmear. Yours might not do that. If you have a very reputable mechanic do the work, much cheaper than the dealer.
#2113 of 2218 Re: claims deadline [crvowner2003]
Oct 06, 2012 (7:14 am)
I have had THREE on my car, and when I took it to Honda, the cost kept going up....they would come back to the waiting area every little bit, say it needed something else, and it was thousands everytime, and I just sat there looking at the person. I finally just told them I was not going to have it repaired to stop the insanity. Eventually, it would have cost me as much as a new car! I hold my breath every time I turn it on. It has made it since repaired after the hours long freeway fiasco last summer.
#2114 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [kkoka1]
Oct 07, 2012 (6:49 pm)
Hmmmm. I suspect your neighbor knew something was up and maybe already did his research on the problem, thus the sale. I knew something was going on with mine for weeks before, but had no idea it was as bad as this. I actually thought maybe something was off with my transmission.
Anyway, don't take it to the dealer!!! Numerous dealers, including the one we bought from and used for servicing, tried to rip us off. The lowest price was $1900, the highest was $3100. Of course, none of them had heard of any problems with the A/C (sarcasm) until I showed them pages upon pages printed from this forum and other places. I think I also got a TSB for them. Uh oh. Mouths suddenly closed as heads nodded as I spoke and exhibited. Then I would get a service manager involved, which changed to another tune. They would tell us it was a maintenance issue and the warranty was over 42k miles on car. Oh, they could give us a 10% discount, but they've never been able to get their district manager or Honda to give more. And with almost no warranty offered, they couldn't guarantee it wouldn't happen again. If a rapport was established you would find out they knew and their hands were tied by their management, dealer ownership and Honda.
We went to our local trusty mechanic (they are pricey on small things but work hard for us on the big stuff). We paid $1700 and they threw in a few smaller items, like alignment, new cabin filter, oil change, etc. They also gave us a two year warranty! We have had to go back twice. I don't think they will want to do this again. The labor is what kills it on this. It is very time intensive. Good luck to you. We are in on the lawsuit, but they recently sent us a notice that they want a more detailed receipt of the parts used and what was done. The garage didn't put all that detail there, of course, so we have to go back. The most we hope we can recover is 30% and I guess they are going to make us crawl and grovel for even that. It is a safety issue, indeed. Over 100 degrees can give heatstroke, cause sleepiness, babies and young children can die and you can get severe burns from metal. Your groceries would unfreeze and spoilage would occur on meats and other things like potato salad. It can and will overheat your electronic devices. Yes, A/C is necessary. Don't sit in a moderate to cool climate and tell those in warm to hot climates there is no safety issue. Ever sat in 116 degree traffic jam with exhaust fumes making you literally ill. Heaven forbid you are pregnant or have an infant who cannot regulate their temperature.
#2115 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [desappointed29]
Oct 08, 2012 (6:31 am)
YEP .. same story here .. 42k miles and 2 a/c blow ups / implosions within 60 days ... 2 months of haggling with Honda produced 1/2 reimbursement ... there will NEVER be another Honda product in my garage
#2116 of 2218 Re: claims deadline [sissytoo]
Oct 08, 2012 (8:11 am)
Just to share this "tip" from my mechanic. It seems honda (notice I drop the capital H... honda is really small when it comes to admitting their design flaws..after all what can one expect from a company that started by selling "decent" motorbikes!!!) sells 2 types of "replacement" a/c systems for the 2003 crv (yes, I would make the font smaller if I could do so....honda should be ashamed of its badge and insignia for this model!!!).
One system is the same as the original so you get MORE chances for revisits to the shop for MORE replacements. The other system is supposed to be an "updated" improved version...I guess a system that is LESS prone to further replacements. I was quoted a difference in price of approximately US$100 b/w the two systems. However, I have yet to replace my system...just FLAT out refuse to give honda more moola$ !!!!
Oct 08, 2012 (9:18 am)
Thank you to everyone who provided info. Need a bit more help.
My mechanic (who we trust) fixed it. Unfortunately, now my SRS system just went out completely (no one will touch that except Honda because it deals with your airbag system AND my ABS Brake system light came on indicating another problem. So, I am sitting here waiting for Honda to tell me how many more thousands of dollars I am in for.
It looks like I will not qualify for the litigation, although I am trying. Is it correct it is capped at 8 years? We are under the 96,000 miles, but it is a 2002 (duh!). I can't believe the lawsuit settled for the year thing. Any information on that??? What about those of us who have had previous owners who meticulously cared for the vehicle???????? Ughhhhh! We've only owned the car for 2 weeks, but know the original owner (who I truly believe didn't know about all this).
Can anyone provide information on other stuff Honda is going to try to ask us for with regards to this? Thank you to desappointed29 for the heads up on the mechanic putting in a bunch of detail.
Well...I'm off to this site to see if there is a class action against the SRS light, too. I am so discouraged. 10 days and $4,000 above and beyond the asking price.
#2118 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [desappointed29]
Oct 08, 2012 (2:50 pm)
Not to mention sitting on the side of the freeway for hours with an autistic child.....if it had been as hot as it has been here this summer, I dont know what we would have done. On the one hand, was over in late afternoon so not as hot as it could have been, on the other, we sat for hours in the middle of nowhere in the dark as it got later. At the last exit we passed, there was a woman murdered and her body left behind that gas station by a trucker. It was more than a little unnerving for a grandmother with her grandson. If/when it goes out again, I don't know what I will do. I have never had trouble with an air system like this, and I have had a lot of cars.
#2119 of 2218 Re: Help...Just bought and just imploded [kkoka1]
Oct 19, 2012 (6:32 am)
Not that pleased with Honda America. With a brand new 2012 CR-V they seem to be taking defensive line that AC and brakes may not be covered due to wear and tear and any abuse by drivers. AC not that cold, and brakes making a thumping noise. Dealer wants to charge $60 for a brake inspection at 18,000 miles. Not pleased with Honda service at all. They were a good company.