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Honda CR-V, Heating / Cooling, SUV
#1815 of 2218 Re: My Honda Accord Hatchback a/c went out years ago [pspmac]
Feb 22, 2011 (2:28 pm)
I do in fact rotate my tires and keep them properly inflated. There are a number of other CRV owners who will also tell you it does not matter what you do, tires do not last on a CRV no matter how well you maintain them. It's a known problem which I suspect has now carried over into the Civic resulting in the most recent class action against Honda.
My CRV is a 2003 which I purchased new from the dealer after the 2004's came out. The AC went out at approximately 68,000 miles. I previously had low mileage failures with the electric window switches, brakes, tires, and the interior started falling apart several years ago. The finish on the steering wheel is coming off and the fabric is falling apart as well. I am not hard on cars nor do I use my CRV for anything other than driving around town or going to the airport. I have all maintenance and inspections performed according to Honda's recommendations.
I do intend on purchasing a new vehicle but after the serious lack of intergrity demostrated by both the dealer and Honda USA in regards to the known AC problems, you can rest assured my next purchase won't be a Honda product. I am not going to put another dime into my CRV as it is basically worthless now.
I have a 1992 Mercedes 190E I purchased used with over 70,000 miles on it at an auction years ago. Other than a few minor issues I have had no problem with the vehicle.
A Honda NEVER AGAIN IN MY HOUSE HOLD!
#1817 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [lenchermack]
Feb 22, 2011 (2:52 pm)
I could not have said it better myself! You are experiencing exactly what many of us have with our CRVs. You are lucky you got 18000 on the tires, that is about all you can expect. The quality of the original tires on the CRV was so bad a tiny nail caused one of my low mileage tires to blow out on I-10 on the way to LA in the rain. I almost wrecked the vehicle in traffic when it blew. I too changed brands and put on good quality tires only to have the front end eat them up no matter how many times I rotated them.
Mac in Palm Springs
#1818 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [lenchermack]
Feb 22, 2011 (3:29 pm)
Your calling anyone an idiot for coming on here and trying to help by suggesting a tire rotation, is way outta line. We are not mind-readers. AFAIC, after reading your post, I have no sympathy for you. Karma rules its ugly head once again.
And while I do not agree that Honda (like most any other mfgr) shirks its responsibility with legitimate claims, the fact is, every single brand out there ALL try to pull stuff from time to time. Grass is NEVER greener. It is only a different shade until it turns just as brown in patches as any other.
It is interesting that if tire psi and alignment are all adhered to, that one model would be harder on tires than another. Now, it has happened, but usually only on one end (usually the front) and Ford's Twin I Beam fr end comes to mind on their 4x4 p/u trucks. But very unusual for a specific car to wear all 4 tires evenly at a fast rate. If the car is loaded with people all the time, or if you brake, corner, or accelerate aggressively, those all will cause premature wear.
#1819 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [pspmac]
Feb 22, 2011 (3:35 pm)
The OEM tires possibly were faulty, but what is far more likely is that that nail let the tire leak down to to too low a psi and that combined with freeway speeds is probably what caused it to blowout due to too much heat and abuse build up from having the steel cord bent at angles they were not designed to be bent at.
On the chance you want to retort without considering some of the caveats I have posted here, I have put them in bold for you.
#1820 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [gimmestdtranny]
Feb 22, 2011 (3:55 pm)
Hi, Don't take it personally because we have had Honda Corporate and dealers folk come on the blog acting like consumers trying to defend their shabby corporate practices and their product defects.
#1821 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [gimmestdtranny]
Feb 22, 2011 (4:06 pm)
Hi Tranny, thanks for the information however there were numerous consumer complaints with Honda OEM tires. In my case a nail punctured my tire and it completely came apart. Due to the fact that it was pouring rain I wasn't able to go very fast on the freeway and it was cold. If I remember correctly there were also a number of consumer complaints on Topix as well about Honda OEM tires. I would also suggest any one having tire issues with either the CRV or Civic visit www.honda-lawsuit.com . There is a new class action and if I remember correctly both the Civic and CRV are built on the same frame/drivetrain so could possibily explain why there are so many issues. Thanks for the heads up about the steel cord I will keep that in mind should I have issues on my other vehicles.
I decided not to buy another Honda not only because of my service issues but also because of the terrible way both their corporate office and the dealer handled the matter. Had they not been so dishonest and played dumb I would most likely be driving a new Honda Pilot. The week before my AC blew I had been to the dealer to look at Pilots. After my AC experience with the same dealer and Honda USA, there will be no Honda in my future.
Have a good one! Mac in Palm Springs
#1822 of 2218 Re: Sounds like Honda's settlement sucks [pspmac]
Feb 22, 2011 (4:21 pm)
Sorry to hear you are having these troubles. As for boycotting out of principle, I am all for it. Ford has been denied the right to sell me at least 5 new vehicles (plus a 2nd big truck, so that musta hurt them a little) since i gave them the chance to make it right when the paint came off my 88 F150 back in 1990. To do the honorable thing, it was not complicated. So I support your conviction if you feel Honda has wronged you. As you too have probably read, (I have read this entire thread) there sure are a lot of A/C cases where is is painfully obvious they failed prematurely and some victims who simply don't put as many miles on as quickly as others, seem to be the biggest losers.
I think it is wrong that in order to 'urge' them to do the right thing, it usually happens after they have stressed you right out with calls and letters (and literal sweat) and raised blood pressure etc etc. Some handle these negotiations a lot better than others. Usually though the corporate intension is clear. Not unlike your cell phone or internet or utility provider, they stone wall you for so long they intend for you to give up. And most do. THAT is why they get away with it and continue that strategy. They really should take some personalities more seriously. If EVERYONE boycotted and stood firm with their convictions, the mfgrs wouldn't keep trying to pull this cr&p.