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You are in the Honda CR-V
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Honda CR-V, Heating / Cooling, SUV
#1594 of 2218 Re: I don't understand.. [gimmestdtranny]
Jul 27, 2010 (1:40 pm)
I retired in May. I no longer sell Hondas and even when I did, I didn't blindly defend them. I have no dog in this fight. I am only trying to reduce some of the anxiety that springs form forums like this one.
Two things have an effect on how long a part lasts. Time and miles. No, I wouldn't expect ANY car company to replace a ten year old AC compressor even if the car had 42,000 miles.
As I said before, sooner or later, every AC compressor will fail. Some may last 300,000 miles and some may last 50,000 miles.
Our 2003 CRV is seven years old with only 51,000 miles. It has been flawless.
If the AC compressor blew tomorrow, yes, I wouldn't be happy and I would call Honda to see if they would foot part of the bill. If the answer was no, I would lick my wounds and get it fixed.
I would not get on a forum and complain about how I was wronged and about how I would never buy another Honda.
But, this is what forums like this are for and sometimes it's a good thing to vent and ask others about their experiences.
I'm just trying to calm people down that own CRV's that they will mre than likely not have a failed compressor. They just don't go bad all that often.
#1595 of 2218 Re: I don't understand..
Jul 27, 2010 (2:35 pm)
By now we should all know it's a waste of energy to pay much attention to anything blueiedgod or isellhondas has to say.
#1596 of 2218 Re: I don't understand.. [shima1]
Jul 27, 2010 (3:27 pm)
Gosh ain't it the truth, talk about blatant blind denial. And how (the one anyway) doesn't see his defending Honda as being every bit as vocal as others complaining is beyond me.
#1597 of 2218 Re: I don't understand.. [shima1]
Jul 27, 2010 (5:46 pm)
Sorry for trying to calm things down by telling it like it REALLY is.
I know misery loves company.
#1598 of 2218 Should hear from the dealer tomorrow
Jul 27, 2010 (7:12 pm)
Not expecting much as I have 116K on my 2003 CR-V. Last week they advised me it would be $2900 for a new a/c system. Called American Honda, explained how they took care of us with our 2000 Odyssey (catalytic converter out at 82K when the warranty was 80K; doors kept sticking for almost the entire 8 years we owned it; tranny went at 80K - although Honda extended all Ody tranny warranties to 100K). Nor do I really expect Honda to do anything and should be happy that absent perhaps $300, I spent nothing on this car other than normal wear/tear items and oil changes. It just is disappointing to have to spend $ on this car that is about 50% or more of the value (in fact, the Subaru dealer was only willing to give me $3800 for a trade, so $3K for a repair is even more crazy). In any event, I will report back later. Has anyone had this issue fixed at a private repair shop for less than the dealer quote??
#1599 of 2218 Re: Hot in AZ [isellhondas]
Jul 27, 2010 (8:19 pm)
I have just spent approx $760 on parts alone for the third repair on my 02. Thankfully a very good friend did all the work but please do not tell me that this is normal for three compressors to fail in less than four years. I have under 165K on the car and this started long before i reached 100k. While others keep saying sell, i am not in any position to buy as i know what i have and will not go new --not in this economy.
I really like this vehicle and only need it to live for another two years for treks to Vermont as my child is in college there but the AC impacts the defrost. I struggle with the concept of NORM as i have owned many cars -toyotas, hondas, VW and put high mileage on and no other vehicle ever had this issue.
#1600 of 2218 Re: Should hear from the dealer tomorrow [tapone1]
Jul 27, 2010 (8:24 pm)
There are lots of posts under different thread names and on other forums besides this one. And most people are paying around 1500. for the entire system to be replaced. (cuz the metal bits from the compressor self-destructing goes throughout the rest of the system. I have read that one guy had success flushing his original hoses, but even that repair was too new to know if has long lasting affects.
Compressor and condenser I have seen at 435. and evaporator about 220. The labour is a big chunk too though, but many dealers are overcharging the labour rate by often twice the proper amount.
Subes have their own host of problems later on down the road, so there is no free ride I'm sorry to say. And Mazda can still be on another planet with their parts pricing. So that leaves Honda, Toyota and Nissan as the other big 3 Asian builds.
GM is still a trainwreck at times, Chrysler is about done, and Ford has been caught in many less than stellar practices also...so what are ya gonna do.
#1601 of 2218 Safety vs. Comfort
Jul 28, 2010 (9:08 am)
Sounds like I touched a nerve ending here. However, this is where majority of the problems with this country start. People have this skewed view of what is right and what is wrong.
I never said that A/C did not fail, or that it was not a problem. I simply argued that comfort of an air conditioned vehicle is luxury, not safety. And what do I get in response? It is a waste of energy to respond? Good job!!! Maybe it is a waste of energy running ai conditioning and contributing to the global warming? Ever thought of that? That the added heat, as has been pointed out, is ruining the planet.
No one ever forced anyone to live where they don't want to live. Yes, I hate heat, there is no way I would ever move south, WAAAAYYY too hot. But, yes, I have lived in a major metropolitan area, NYC for many many years. And guess what, drove stick and with out the air conditioner. If one is stuck in traffic, and there is no air flow, there is no reason to ride the bumper of the car infront. Simply leave enough buffer zone and you will be crusing at 5 mph through the thickest of the jams. And guess what, driving stick, you can do a 5 mph crawl without having to clutch, apply brakes, just by simply modulating the throttle.
People are free to choose where they live and what they do. I did not like the weather in NYC. Even NYC is too hot for me, so I moved to where I am comfortable.
As to not being able to drive safely without A/C, I say BUNK!!! I ride from April through October, there is no A/C on a bike!!!
To whoever pointed out that my mother stayed at home, they were right. But, no one is forcing both parents to work these days, either. You just have to make sacrifices. My sister and I grew up in a small apartment, without air conditioning. We had one old black and white TV (in the 1980's and 90's!!!!) and went to public schools. Went to public universities, and paid for our own education with loans and grants.
No one needs a 4,000 ft² house and a nanny to raise 2 children. Once again, not a
But this whole conversation has been off topic. The main point is that A/C is a luxury, not necessity. If it is a necessity, i.e. elderly, sick, weak... they are living in a climate they are not meant to live. Example, there areplenty of people south of the US, where it is even hotter than here, and they have no A/C's and, they do have major metropolitan areas (Mexico City is larger than NYC).
This simple concept of living within your means has been lost on most people, and these are the people who can't differentiate between "needs" and "wants." Good luck going through life like that.
#1602 of 2218 AC is a luxery not a necessity
Jul 28, 2010 (9:29 am)
I think you are on the edge of insanity and your opinions about your lifestyle and where you live have nothing to do with a technological problem that happens to exist in certain Honda AC units.
These could be dangerous. Let's say you are using you defroster on a day when the road is really slippery. You AC could lock up and it could cause your CRV to go into a skid. This is a scenario that could really happen and in this case the AC would be a safety issue. It could happen to you living in your simple refrigerated climate. All you would have to do is turn on your defroster unless you don't use that either.
#1603 of 2218 Re: AC is a luxery not a necessity [beyondoil]
Jul 28, 2010 (9:59 am)
Please explain to me how an AC unit could lock up and cause a car to go into a skid?
I have been in the automotive industry all of my life and that just might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!
But, please explain. Maybe I'm missing something?