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Honda CR-V, Heating / Cooling, SUV
#1481 of 2218 Re: Honda will help [belacqua]
Jul 15, 2010 (6:01 am)
Well, now that I'm not alone, I don't feel too bad (NOT!). Our 2003 CRV just lost its AC system on July 5. Same compressor meltdown that corrupted the entire system. We have 57k on it, and the extended warranty ran out 2 1/2 months ago (Arrrrrgh!). Our dealer wants $3400 to replace the system. Spoke with Honda today, and am supposed to get a call from a case worker within 48 hours. Hey, this is Michigan. How much do they think we really need to use the air up here???
#1482 of 2218 Honda AC problems
Jul 15, 2010 (7:47 am)
If you search previous e mails there's an opinion that the problem is in the condensor as opposed to the AC compressor. Apparently the flues in the condensor are too small and under certain situations the compressor can be pumping liquid freon instead of gaseous freon. This causes it to blow apart.
So I don't know if I have my terminology correct on the gas vs liquid but this was pointed out by a Honda mechanic a long time ago.
PS I sold my CRV but told the buyer of this website. I had put in an aftermarket AC that I bought off E bay. It was working fine when I sold it.
#1483 of 2218 Re: Honda AC problems [beyondoil]
Jul 15, 2010 (8:44 am)
A fix could be as simple as placing an additional fan in front of the condenser to force more air through it to further facilitate heat transfer
Jul 15, 2010 (9:11 am)
A/C failure. CRV 04 . Local mechanic gave my Technical Service Bulletin (TSB#09-076) ISSUE DEC 3/09.....not a warranty issue but a goodwill application....
Air Conditioning Tech and I had a good laugh..
#1485 of 2218 Re: Waiting for Honda to do the right thing [compressorx2]
Jul 15, 2010 (10:10 am)
Don't hold your breath, Honda has no intention of doing the right thing! My AC system self destructed last weekend. The dealer tried to charge me $2000.00 and didn't even bother to mention that Honda might offer some assistance. That assistance was 25%, I don't think so. If your AC failed go to www.honda-lawsuit.com it seems Honda continued to sell CRV's with defective ac systems but didn't mention a word to their customers about it. I am so angry I have printed up letter and am putting them on every CRV I see. Honda just screwed the wrong consumer.
#1486 of 2218 Re: Waiting for Honda to do the right thing [pspmac]
Jul 15, 2010 (10:11 am)
>Honda continued to sell CRV's with defective ac systems but didn't mention a word to their customers about it
Isn't that the same as what they did with transmissions in various related cars? Some are slow learners?
#1488 of 2218 Re: Oh by the way... [zempgirl]
Jul 15, 2010 (11:54 am)
" Bye bye Honda!"
" I am done being a victim to car companies"
Do you expect cars to never break or have problems?
#1489 of 2218 Re: Oh by the way... [isellhondas]
Jul 15, 2010 (1:44 pm)
"Do you expect cars to never break or have problems?"
Do you expect companies with pretty obvious defective designs to fail to stand up to it?
This used to be a strong point for Honda. Now they will end up like Toyota down the road losing their ability to get a premium margin on their product. They are both repeating the errors GM made in the past.
Say Mr. Honda, take a look at some of the more common Honda blogs here. Let's see:
VCM oil consumption
These are all major issues with potentially big dollar repair bills. Maybe some of the new Ford and GM isn't all that bad these days? Keep it up and it may not be all that long before Honda finds itself like Toyota falling in surveys and reviews. Those Toyota sales people never thought it could happen to them either.
#1490 of 2218 Re: Oh by the way... [berri]
Jul 15, 2010 (2:10 pm)
First of all, I officially retired from the car business last month so I really don't have a dog in this fight.
One day, a couple of years ago, I had a customer tell me that she had heard that CRV's have massive, widespread AC compressor problems.
Now, granted, I was in sales but because of mhy extensive automotive background I communicated all of the time with the guys in our shop. I immediatly went out and asked the Service Advisors, a few technicians and even our Honda Rep.
Believe me if you want, but all I got were puzzled looks! Thjey all agreed that they had no idea where the bad press was coming from and they said that, yes, from time to time, on a high mileage CRV, an AC pump could fail but CRV's weren't any better or worse than any other Honda. I believe the CRV shares the same compressor with Accords and Elements.
A couple of months later, I asked the same question and received the same answer. You have to remember that forums like this one attract the people with problems like a magnet.
I guess my question is just how long do people expect a A/C compressor to last?
I don't think a failure at 100,000 miles is a "defective design" Do you?
As far as the other things you brought up.
CRV differentials - If the dual pump fluid is changed every 30,000 miles, there won't be a problem. I think the owner's manual should state this instead of the 60K they reccomend.
V-6 transaxles? do you mean the automatic transmissions?
Yes, on a few years, especially on Odysseys a higher failure rate than one would expect from a Honda product. Most were fine (if not abused and maintained) but quite a few weren't. to Honda's credit, they went WAY beyond their warranty program to make things right.
VCM oil consumption - never heard of this.
My only point is ANY car will wear out and have problems from time to time. People expect Hondas to be perfect and run forever and when they fall short, it's a bIG deal!
" Maybe some of the new Ford and GM isn't all that bad these days"
Maybe...I guess time will tell. I give a lot of credit to Ford for the progress they have made. GM doesn't impress me.
Lastly, you are dead right! Honda can't rest on their laurels. There is intense competition out there and they have to stay on top of their game.