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#1442 of 2218 Honda CRV 2002 A/C replaced for the 2nd time
Jun 29, 2010 (3:52 pm)
There is a definite problem with the Honda ACs. I had the total AC system replaced in 8/2005 and fortunately it was under Warranty. Recently, in May I was told by the Dealership I had to replace the whole AC again for $2800. I took it for 2nd opinion to a reputable mechanic in Baltimore and the only thing that needed to be replaced was the compressor. I don't know what the mechanic did but the AC is working better than when I got the car brand new. I saved myself $1800.00. If you live in Maryland take your car to the Catonsville Car Care Center. They're excellent.
#1443 of 2218 Re: Honda CRV 2002 A/C replaced for the 2nd time [oath]
Jun 30, 2010 (8:38 am)
I think a good local auto A/C specialist can tell you more about the issue then the dealership.
#1444 of 2218 Re: CRV $$$$$ [ellenclara]
Jun 30, 2010 (1:48 pm)
I believe the "theory" of fine metal particles is correct. The original problem is a defective compressor. But once it fails, you need to replace all components including the suction and liquid lines... not just the coils and compressor.
It's not like Honda makes these compressors. there's fundamentally nothing different than the A/C systme on any other car. Only that Honda's suppleir made a bad part, and the repair isn't being performed correctly... in that the contamination is left behind and kills the new compressor even if it's a good design.
IMO, the original MFG should be responsible to pick up at least part of the cost of the repair, Honda another part of the costs and only a small part by the customer.
Put it this way... if Honda had a defective part in the egnine that caused the engine to fail. Would you expect them to just replace the bad part? Heck no, they'd have ot give you a new or rebuilt engine.
The matter is complicated because hte initial failure typically occur just outside the warranty period.
#1445 of 2218 Re: CRV $$$$$ [motoguy128]
Jul 01, 2010 (7:28 am)
This sounds like Honda's reliability back in the 70's. The car drop dead after 3 years of used.
#1446 of 2218 2006 CRV AC explosion
Jul 03, 2010 (7:38 pm)
Driving yesterday in AZ's heat, I heard a slight rattle, then no more cool air. The Honda dealership told me that my compressor exploded sending shrapnel into the entire system. Whole thing had to be replaced for $2200. The car has been well maintained and just got a 40,000 mile check from the dealership last month. Does anyone know if this should have been detected by the dealership? I am so surprised by this. I previously owned a 2002 civic and didn't have to make one repair. After reading through some of this forum I've decided to pursue it with Honda. Just thought I'd add my story to the list to give others reason to pursue this problem with Honda. Also does anyone know if recalls are only for safety issues? Seems as though this is a wide enough spread problem to be recalled. Of course keeping in mind that most CRVs are probably without this problem.
#1447 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [amy7766]
Jul 04, 2010 (4:59 am)
I have a 2002 CRV and they said the same thing about mine the first time when it was still under warranty in 8/2005 at 56,000 miles. It happened again 4 weeks ago at 126,000 miles and they said they would have to replace the whole system again for $2800.00. This time I got smart and took it to a local well known mechanic in Baltimore and it only needed a compressor. I saved $1,800 and the mechanic told me in his 30 years in business he's never heard of replacing a whole AC system for the 2nd time within 5 years.
This is the response I got from the Honda Lawsuit when I contacted them but since Honda didn't replace it I didn't think of keeping the compressor.
Thank you for contacting us about the issues with your Honda. Unfortunately, it appears that many Honda's have had the same problem that you are experiencing. Apparently, Honda typically covers the cost of repair while the vehicle is under warranty, but will not once the warranty has expired. However, some owners have received "goodwill" contributions from Honda. Regardless, you should call American Honda’s customer service department at 1-800-999-1009 and open a claim.
Additionally, if your vehicle is in the process of being repaired, you should ask to keep your compressor.
In order for us to determine your eligibility to be part of this potential class action brought on behalf of Honda owners, please send, e-mail or fax me a copy of the service records related to this issue. Upon review of your documentation we will contact you to discuss your situation further.
#1448 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [amy7766]
Jul 04, 2010 (5:01 am)
I feel bad for you but at least you know you are not alone. There are hundreds/thousands of us out here. My compressor blew at 61,00 and that was two years ago. I still have not fixed it as Honda said they would not repair it. I now have 81,000 miles. In my opinion we all need to get some media attention as that is what Honda will NOT approve of. It is ridiculous as I rent a car for vacation. I live in Ohio and I bet in the five years I had the AC I used it maybe 100 times...that is 20 times a year. Honda had a BIG problem with transmissions and fixed that so why not admit to this. Any one that can get their newspaper or TV station to help would be great. Good luck. There is a group of attorneys trying to handle a class action lawsuit.
#1449 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [oath]
Jul 04, 2010 (5:41 am)
>but since Honda didn't replace it I didn't think of keeping the compressor.
The shop that repaired it might still have the compressor in their possession.
#1450 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [oath]
Jul 04, 2010 (1:17 pm)
" This time I got smart and took it to a local well known mechanic in Baltimore and it only needed a compressor. I saved $1,800 and the mechanic told me in his 30 years in business he's never heard of replacing a whole AC system for the 2nd time within 5 years. "
Please keep us informed how it goes. When the compressor goes, it generally causes small metal fragments to be distributed throughout the entire system. This will cause the new compressor to fail prematurely. Did the mechanic check the entire system for metal fragments?
#1451 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [stevedebi]
Jul 07, 2010 (7:54 am)
Okay, mine is a 2004. The compressor blew up fall of 08. I waited until July last year to have it repaired. It was a $1200 job as opposed to the $2000 the dealer quoted.
Just yesterday, in the 97-degree heat, I felt the power drain again. I made the comment, "this feels like it did just before the ac compressor blew up." Then the grinding noises. I turned off the ac and headed directly to the mechanic who replaced the compressor the first time.
After reading all these posts, I knew I had to ask if maybe there was debris left in the system when the mechanic replaced the compressor the first time. I just called him. He replaced the entire system for that reason.
My question is, now what?
Does anyone have a fix to this?
My mechanic is looking for a heat shield. I found ONE post suggesting a grille insert that solves the problem. That's only one post. I don't want to have to replace my ac every year. This time, my mechanic is trying to have the manufacturer replace the compressor at no charge. Does the fact that it didn't blow up this time mean there's no debris or do we replace the whole system again?
I called the dealer that sold me the vehicle. The young man does not know of a fix.
I really like my CRV. I had a 2001. drove it to 106K and never had a problem. Should have kept it.
I would really appreciate it if anyone can help.