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#1440 of 2218 Honda CRV A/C Compressor
Jun 29, 2010 (9:32 am)
Sadly I have to add my vehicle to this very long list of a/c compressor failures. My CRV is a 2003 with 103,000 miles on it. Of the $3,000 cost to fix, Honda is going to kick in 25%, which is better than nothing, but not that great considering how many of these are failing and how expensive they are to replace. My dealership has been great throughout, but Honda corporate customer service leaves a lot to be desired. I was told that because of the high miles (don't they advertise that their cars will just go forever?) the only reason they're giving me anything is because I've had all my repairs done at the dealership. Otherwise, I'd get nothing. Here's a direct quote "eventually the owner of the vehicle has to take responsibility for repairs". Now, I bought it new, bought the extended warranty and financed it with them. None of which made a bit of difference. Oh, and while my dealer told me that 100% of these systems will eventually fail, corporate said it is a very small percentage, regardless of what I've read on the internet. So, I will fix it, and trade it for something other than a Honda. I guess this is a classic case of buyer beware. Lesson learned.
#1441 of 2218 Re: Honda CRV A/C Compressor [jmc44]
Jun 29, 2010 (10:34 am)
Ask the dealer if they are putting in a Keihin or Seltec brand compressor.
Keihin will eventually failed according to other people postings. Keihin has discontinued manufacturing the compressor. It seems Seltec is another choice.
I just found this:
Subject: Re: Keihin compressor exploded
Date: August 01, 2003 at 08:50:51
Posted by: M. Mack on via: or 220.127.116.11
In Reply to: The message posted by David on July 30, 2003 at 18:49:08:
If you can find two different oils in your sample, you may be able to show that one of them was not compatible with R-134A or that one oil was not compatible with the other.
When the compressor failed, you lost an undetermined amount of oil that was mixed with refrigerant,therefore it is not realistic to prove how much oil was in the system before.
Although I have never seen any published data of explosive limits, it is a fact that certain mixtures of R-134A & air have been known to explode. That is why technicians are warned not to leak test R-134A systems with air.
My bet is either: 1) You had some air in your system due to the system being open to atmosphere (hard to prove though) and conditions were right for explosion, or 2) The system lost some refrigerant during the past year, sucked air, and conditions were right for explosion.
And this :
This bulletin clearly mentioned late 80's early 90's Keihin Hondas have A/C compressor issues.
#1442 of 2218 Honda CRV 2002 A/C replaced for the 2nd time
Jun 29, 2010 (3:52 pm)
There is a definite problem with the Honda ACs. I had the total AC system replaced in 8/2005 and fortunately it was under Warranty. Recently, in May I was told by the Dealership I had to replace the whole AC again for $2800. I took it for 2nd opinion to a reputable mechanic in Baltimore and the only thing that needed to be replaced was the compressor. I don't know what the mechanic did but the AC is working better than when I got the car brand new. I saved myself $1800.00. If you live in Maryland take your car to the Catonsville Car Care Center. They're excellent.
#1443 of 2218 Re: Honda CRV 2002 A/C replaced for the 2nd time [oath]
Jun 30, 2010 (8:38 am)
I think a good local auto A/C specialist can tell you more about the issue then the dealership.
#1444 of 2218 Re: CRV $$$$$ [ellenclara]
Jun 30, 2010 (1:48 pm)
I believe the "theory" of fine metal particles is correct. The original problem is a defective compressor. But once it fails, you need to replace all components including the suction and liquid lines... not just the coils and compressor.
It's not like Honda makes these compressors. there's fundamentally nothing different than the A/C systme on any other car. Only that Honda's suppleir made a bad part, and the repair isn't being performed correctly... in that the contamination is left behind and kills the new compressor even if it's a good design.
IMO, the original MFG should be responsible to pick up at least part of the cost of the repair, Honda another part of the costs and only a small part by the customer.
Put it this way... if Honda had a defective part in the egnine that caused the engine to fail. Would you expect them to just replace the bad part? Heck no, they'd have ot give you a new or rebuilt engine.
The matter is complicated because hte initial failure typically occur just outside the warranty period.
#1445 of 2218 Re: CRV $$$$$ [motoguy128]
Jul 01, 2010 (7:28 am)
This sounds like Honda's reliability back in the 70's. The car drop dead after 3 years of used.
#1446 of 2218 2006 CRV AC explosion
Jul 03, 2010 (7:38 pm)
Driving yesterday in AZ's heat, I heard a slight rattle, then no more cool air. The Honda dealership told me that my compressor exploded sending shrapnel into the entire system. Whole thing had to be replaced for $2200. The car has been well maintained and just got a 40,000 mile check from the dealership last month. Does anyone know if this should have been detected by the dealership? I am so surprised by this. I previously owned a 2002 civic and didn't have to make one repair. After reading through some of this forum I've decided to pursue it with Honda. Just thought I'd add my story to the list to give others reason to pursue this problem with Honda. Also does anyone know if recalls are only for safety issues? Seems as though this is a wide enough spread problem to be recalled. Of course keeping in mind that most CRVs are probably without this problem.
#1447 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [amy7766]
Jul 04, 2010 (4:59 am)
I have a 2002 CRV and they said the same thing about mine the first time when it was still under warranty in 8/2005 at 56,000 miles. It happened again 4 weeks ago at 126,000 miles and they said they would have to replace the whole system again for $2800.00. This time I got smart and took it to a local well known mechanic in Baltimore and it only needed a compressor. I saved $1,800 and the mechanic told me in his 30 years in business he's never heard of replacing a whole AC system for the 2nd time within 5 years.
This is the response I got from the Honda Lawsuit when I contacted them but since Honda didn't replace it I didn't think of keeping the compressor.
Thank you for contacting us about the issues with your Honda. Unfortunately, it appears that many Honda's have had the same problem that you are experiencing. Apparently, Honda typically covers the cost of repair while the vehicle is under warranty, but will not once the warranty has expired. However, some owners have received "goodwill" contributions from Honda. Regardless, you should call American Honda’s customer service department at 1-800-999-1009 and open a claim.
Additionally, if your vehicle is in the process of being repaired, you should ask to keep your compressor.
In order for us to determine your eligibility to be part of this potential class action brought on behalf of Honda owners, please send, e-mail or fax me a copy of the service records related to this issue. Upon review of your documentation we will contact you to discuss your situation further.
#1448 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [amy7766]
Jul 04, 2010 (5:01 am)
I feel bad for you but at least you know you are not alone. There are hundreds/thousands of us out here. My compressor blew at 61,00 and that was two years ago. I still have not fixed it as Honda said they would not repair it. I now have 81,000 miles. In my opinion we all need to get some media attention as that is what Honda will NOT approve of. It is ridiculous as I rent a car for vacation. I live in Ohio and I bet in the five years I had the AC I used it maybe 100 times...that is 20 times a year. Honda had a BIG problem with transmissions and fixed that so why not admit to this. Any one that can get their newspaper or TV station to help would be great. Good luck. There is a group of attorneys trying to handle a class action lawsuit.
#1449 of 2218 Re: 2006 CRV AC explosion [oath]
Jul 04, 2010 (5:41 am)
>but since Honda didn't replace it I didn't think of keeping the compressor.
The shop that repaired it might still have the compressor in their possession.