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Honda CR-V AC Compressor Problems

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Re: Update on lawsuit [zgreat1] by blueiedgod
Sep 21, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: zgreat1 (Sep 21, 2009 8:37 am)

Does anyone have more information on this pending lawsuit? That is, the number of owners who have filed, the cost of filing, the type of settlement and the proposed settlement date, etc. My 2003 CR-V a/c hissed (and blew hot air right after that) on (of all day) ....9/11/09...with less than 70,000 miles on the odometer!!!
 
Jus tlike with every other "class action" lawsuit, the lawyers are the ones who benefit. The law firm will get $20,000,000 in fixed compensation, plus $10,000,000 in expenses, and the people who signed up for the law suit will get a coupon for a free happy meal at McDonalds.
 
I would not be surprized if half of the people pumping up the class action suit on here and other websites actually work for the said law firm.
 
Honda stopped providing free goodwill warranty because it opened them up to liability to hungry law firms. So, you can thank whoever started the class action for the drying fo the Goodwill coverage.
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Re: Update on lawsuit [blueiedgod] by steve_ HOST
Sep 21, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Sep 21, 2009 9:13 am)

I've never quite understood the allure of a class action - if you have a lemon, why not get an attorney and sue the car company yourself? For the dollar amount involved, lots of them could be handled in small claims and the chance of significant recovery seems a lot better. At least 10% instead of 2.
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Re: Update on lawsuit [blueiedgod] by zgreat1
Sep 21, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Sep 21, 2009 9:13 am)

Thanks for the "update" and "clarification". Guess "there's no such thing as a free lunch" (well, perhaps an unHappy meal MacKaD, as you put it!)
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Re: Update on lawsuit [steve_] by zgreat1
Sep 21, 2009 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 21, 2009 9:52 am)

Perhaps a combination of ignorance and fear of going against the "giant" on the part of the "plaintiffs" would explain the allure. My understanding is that a class action suit is filed for "just and fair" redemption on behalf of a "class" of plaintiffs who have suffered an "injustice"..in this case, a poorly designed and/or manufactured product. Unfortunately, the lawyers who "helped" file the suit always seem to get all the moolahs and the "class" members are left with puny amounts, if any, and a "consolation" sense of "justice has prevailed" over the "giant".
 
Hopefully the readers of this forum will now think twice before signing up for a class action suit. I know I will. Thanks.
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Re: Update on lawsuit [zgreat1] by steve_ HOST
Sep 21, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: zgreat1 (Sep 21, 2009 10:16 am)

People don't want to hassle with small claims though, much less being an "active" participant in a one-off case, even if it's handled "free" on contingency.
 
I'm still waiting for my coupon for signing up for the class for overpaying currency exchange rates on foreign VISA transactions. It's been over 2 years now.
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Re: Another dead Honda compressor [pdoe] by alix22
Sep 27, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: pdoe (Sep 16, 2009 4:46 pm)

I purchased my 2003 Honda CR-V used in early 2004. Recently, I had a traumatic experience when the compressor of my A/C locked up in heavy traffic, shutting down the engine. Fortunately, I had the presence of mind to switch off the A/C, since I heard the most AWFUL noise coming from under the hood. When I did, the noise went away, but the engine had died, and I kept having to start it back up. As you may imagine, I was very upset, mainly because I was in the turning lane, about to turn left in front of three lanes of oncoming traffic on a major US highway. All I can think of now, is how fortunate I was that it didn't happen during that turn! I was able to get to a parking spot off the road & called to have the CR-V towed to the dealership, since I didn't think I could drive it safely, not knowing what the problem was.
 
My service rep informed me that the air conditioner was the culprit for both the noise and the shut-down of the engine, and that the cost of replacement would be over $3,100. What a shock, since the mileage was less than 48,000. I told him what happened, and he was able to get Honda to reduce the price $750. I then did some research and found out about the "Black Death" related to particular models of CR-Vs and Acuras that had faulty evaporator hoses, the interior of which disintegrated slowly, eventually clogging the compressor, and resulting in the "explosion" of the A/C, sending shrapnel throughout the entire system. I reported my findings, and when I went to pick up my car, he told me he was able to get Honda to reduce the cost of replacement to $1668.
 
When I reviewed the service receipt, after the fact, and after I had already signed off on the repair service, I noticed that the problem had been written up as "Customer states the air conditioning is blowing warm air" (not so!), followed by "Black Death" and the replacement covered by "Warranty", meaning that it was a known problem that Honda could have corrected through recall and replacement of the defective hoses, wouldn't you think?
 
In the meantime, I commend the extra mile my local Honda Dealer Service Dept. went in working to get Honda America to step up to the plate and at least share the cost with me. I just hate that I can't trust Honda reliability anymore.
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this is ridiculous! by seafan88
Sep 30, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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I have just found out that I too have the "black death". Honda quoted me $3500 to fix it. The best that the dealer can do for me is to knock off 10%. Wow...not to sound ungrateful but that really won't ease the pain too much. This repair is costing almost 20% of the actual cost of the vehicle brand new! I bought the car because I had already had an Accord for 10+ years and loved it...but I needed something larger and since I lived far from family and did a lot of driving, needed something reliable.
 
I know everyone here has a hardship story...especially at this moment in time, but the money that this is costing me all the money that I have saved for my wedding plus a whole bunch more. I am a teacher (who hasn't had any cost of living increase in more than 3 years) and this kind of debt will seriously hurt. I wasn't even planning any sort of fancy wedding...just a small cookout on the beach. Guess we can't even do that anymore.
 
How can Honda expect to have any sort quality customer service or loyalty if they can't even acknowledge a problem that they know exists? How can this not be a safety issue when I keep reading stories of these vehicles stalling in traffic and pieces falling out? Will it have to take someone dieing, like it did Toyota, to admit there is a problem? In the meantime, what do the rest of us do? Go into debt and eat PB&J for the next few years just to pay it off?
 
This is infuriating and for the first time in 15 years I can actually speak poorly of the quality and service of the Honda Corporation. I think this issue needs to be brought out into the public forum so Honda can start hurting from a bruised image and perhaps then they will step up and help us out.
 
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Me too, another one by anry
Oct 23, 2009 (7:29 am)
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"After 4 years of service and 29,500 miles, I contracted the BLACK DEATH and I died from it". This is the final words of my 05CR-V a/c.
 
The repair estimate is $2,400 (they still have to inspect the whole system for contamination, that means maybe an higher bill). After negociation, Honda accepted the idea, a possibility of goodwill agreement. I'm keeping Crossed my fingers.
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Re: Me too, another one [anry] by blueiedgod
Oct 23, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: anry (Oct 23, 2009 7:29 am)

"After 4 years of service and 29,500 miles, I contracted the BLACK DEATH and I died from it". This is the final words of my 05CR-V a/c.
  
The repair estimate is $2,400 (they still have to inspect the whole system for contamination, that means maybe an higher bill). After negociation, Honda accepted the idea, a possibility of goodwill agreement. I'm keeping Crossed my fingers.

 
Wow, an 05 and with such low miles!!!
 
What is the first letter/number of your VIN number?
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It's over! by shima1
Oct 23, 2009 (3:42 pm)
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I just got rid of my 02 CRV ticking bomb and got a RAV of the same year. Comparing the two the Honda is more refined and evolved in many ways but the fatal flaw takes it out of the running.
Shame on Honda.

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