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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [dwkinsey]
by blueiedgod
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Jun 26, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: dwkinsey (Jun 24, 2009 5:35 pm)
I bought a Honda because it was supposed to be a reliable vehicle. I am very angry that a company like Honda would put a junk part like this in one of their vehicles and not recall it.
A/C is a luxury. I bet you that your Honda still starts and run every day, just as it is intended to do.
Would you rather have a functional A/C and wheels that fall off when cornering? Engines that sieze? Transmissions that lock up? Electrical ghosts? Windshield wiper motors that catch on fire?.....
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [blueiedgod]
by nlv1
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Jun 26, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 26, 2009 8:35 am)
Hey, blueidgod, I bet you can say "A/C is a luxury" from up there in Buffalo.
You just can't grasp the fact that most of the compressors in question literally exploded and owners (especially of 5-6 yr old cars with average or below average miles) are only questioning the quality (or location) of the compressor.
I have a 15 yr old Accord with more than 100k miles that has an A/C that still works like it did on day 1. Will it one day lose performance and even stop working altogether? Of course. Will I fault Honda? Of course not, because I believe that Honda put in a quality compressor in this case based on the age and the mileage of the car. But I don't expect the compressor to explode and have a hole and scatter "shrapnel" all over the engine bay.
I just hope you don't experience the same thing with your 2005. I think 2003/2004 AC compressors have the same part number as 2005's. But then, you can afford not to have A/C up there.
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [blueiedgod]
by tidester HOST
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Jun 26, 2009 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 26, 2009 8:35 am)
A/C is a luxury.
That's certainly not true in Phoenix, Arizona or Blythe, California.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [blueiedgod]
by dwkinsey
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Jun 26, 2009 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 26, 2009 8:35 am)
A/C is certainly not a luxury in central Florida! For the last month, the heat index has been 100-110 degrees F. Add to that I am disabled and I cannot tolerate extreme heat. So I either stay home, ride with someone else, or pray for rain. Had I known about this problem, I would not have bought a CR-V. Unfortunately Honda does not even document the problem anywhere. Most known vehicle problems are documented in Alldata, but not this problem. My mechanic son uses Alldata and it was not there. It showed how to replace the compressor but that's all. I saw it myself.
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [dwkinsey]
by jpettibone
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Jun 27, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: dwkinsey (Jun 26, 2009 2:24 pm)
Look, I'm going to say this once and quit, and I understand that this is essentially a flame at this point. Blueiedgod, we all understand your viewpoint by now. Please stop agitating people who are justifiably upset with your judgmental and biased views. Unless you have something new to add, let your argument stand based on your previous posts and move on. No one who searches this topic can fail to find your viewpoint. I, for one, am sick and tired of your "tis only a flesh wound" approach to this. It is possible for Honda to produced a flawed product. By all objective standards, the 2002-2005 Honda CR-V has a handful of flaws- some significant, some minor. Let's let people continue to post their issues without talking down to them or acting like it's their fault.
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [dwkinsey]
by berri
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Jun 28, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: dwkinsey (Jun 26, 2009 2:24 pm)
This guy, excuse me blue eyed goddess, must work for Honda or one of their dealers. What a cop out to avoid admitting that Honda has engineering and quality problems like everyone else. A/C on CRV is a major problem and shouldn't be happening on 5 or 6 year old cars with less than 100K PERIOD! Honda has also had a lot of apparent transaxle issues. Evidently Honda used to step up to the plate on these matters but is now becoming more like D3. So much for differentiating their company from the competition! If Hyundai keeps its customer focus and continues to improve quality as well, I can see Japan joining Detroit in the future.
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by tidester HOST
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Jun 28, 2009 (1:37 pm)
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Let's avoid making each other the topic and focus on compressor issues instead.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [berri]
by tabanowa
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Jun 28, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jun 28, 2009 11:22 am)
I agree that A/C on CRV is a MAJOR problem and should NOT be happening on 5 or 6 year old cars with less than 100K!!! And it DOES appear that back in 2006 and 2007 they were often covering this problem 100%, but now they are not. In my case, they have agreed to cover 75%, but that's still leaving with me with a $750 repair, which I can't afford!! I'm probably going to have to go into debt over it because A/C is essential in the climate where I live. arghhhhhhh...
maybe this really is cause for a class action lawsuit??
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [tabanowa]
by stevedebi
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Jun 29, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: tabanowa (Jun 28, 2009 3:15 pm)
"I agree that A/C on CRV is a MAJOR problem and should NOT be happening on 5 or 6 year old cars with less than 100K!!! And it DOES appear that back in 2006 and 2007 they were often covering this problem 100%, but now they are not. "
I don't work for Honda, but I did own a 2003 EX for several years. My A/C did not fail while I owned the car.
In 2006 and 2007, the problem cars were only 2-3 years old, so I'm not surprised that they covered more of them.
I still suspect that owners got a LOT more response than they would have received from one of the big three in such a situation.
I think that most people expect better quality from Honda - I concur that 100K is just not right for what appears to be a large scale problem (as opposed to an isolated incident with a few cars).
RE: Lawsuit. The vehicles are out of warranty, I don't see a claim here... there is no written or implied warranty on the A/C lasting longer than 3 years / 36K miles, unless you bought an extended warranty, in which case the mileage/time would be whatever was purchased.
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Re: Another 2003 Honda CR-V A/C meltdown [stevedebi]
by berri
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Jun 29, 2009 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jun 29, 2009 9:56 am)
RE: Lawsuit. The vehicles are out of warranty, I don't see a claim here... there is no written or implied warranty on the A/C lasting longer than 3 years / 36K miles, unless you bought an extended warranty, in which case the mileage/time would be whatever was purchased.
Not necessarily - possibly a latent defect matter.
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