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Re: Well, I just HAD to make that post... [stevedebi]
by rich126
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Apr 29, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
Wanted to add my name to the expanding springtime compressor failures. 2004 CRV with 72000 miles. Just got back from the Honda dealer who diagnosed the problem as a locked compressor. They could find no evidence of "black death" contamination of the system, so only the compressor, some lines, and filter need replacing. Cost was quoted at $1200, but since we were considered "valued customers" (care purchased and serviced exclusively at that dealer), they are going to work with Honda for parts. My cost will be $500. I accepted that and they are ordering parts. My wife drives this car and loves it. Hopefully the replacement compressor will last for a few more years.
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- #1068 of 1373
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Re: Well, I just HAD to make that post... [rich126]
by jpettibone
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Apr 29, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: rich126 (Apr 29, 2009 7:15 am)
We've also done all our service at the dealer- maybe that will matter to the national rep. The dealer said it would, but then again, it did not matter to the regional rep. I'd take your deal hands down, drive it for a year, and then sell.
I don't understand rejecting this repair for mileage reasons, since this is not a wear item. We were just "lucky" to have it last a bit longer. Maybe if it had failed sooner, it would not have taken the rest of the system with it.
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- #1069 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [blueiedgod]
by 21220
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Apr 30, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
Everytime you use your defroster your a/c compressor is on. This feature was added to most cars several years ago because people weren't turning on their a/c's for ten minutes a week. I experienced this problem with my a/c on my 2002 CRV. The car has 61000 miles. I had a 72 month 72000 mile extended warranty. Honda doen't care. However after pleading my case that this was the fifth vehicle purchased in the last 15 years from them, they are paying $1675 of the $3900 repair bill.
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- #1070 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [21220]
by stevedebi
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May 05, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: 21220 (Apr 30, 2009 10:49 am)
"Everytime you use your defroster your a/c compressor is on. This feature was added to most cars several years ago because people weren't turning on their a/c's for ten minutes a week. "
I think it was implemented to ensure that dry air got to the windshield; this is more efficient at clearing the windows. It did not (specifically) have to do with A/C or compressors. It has been standard on all my cars since about 1996.
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- #1071 of 1373
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2002 87K miles suddently no AC
by mobility
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May 06, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Not even the fan comes on! Is this how the notorious catastrophic failure manifests itself? I would expect that at least it would work on heat mode/be able to blow hot air. (checked fuses, are ok)
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- #1072 of 1373
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Re: 2002 87K miles suddently no AC [mobility]
by beyondoil
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May 06, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: mobility (May 06, 2009 3:47 pm)
I don't think the fan has anything to do with the AC clutch which is the only thing on the compressor that requires electricity. Are you sure you checked the right fuses?
Hopefully you will find one blown.
Daniel
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- #1073 of 1373
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Re: 2002 87K miles suddently no AC [mobility]
by blueiedgod
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May 07, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: mobility (May 06, 2009 3:47 pm)
Not even the fan comes on! Is this how the notorious catastrophic failure manifests itself? I would expect that at least it would work on heat mode/be able to blow hot air. (checked fuses, are ok)
If you mean the cabin fan, it is a separate system that integrates the HVAC controls together.
Set the fan to the highest setting and it should come on. If it does, then you have a blown transistor in the fan speed module.
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- #1074 of 1373
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Re: 2002 87K miles suddently no AC [blueiedgod]
by mobility
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May 07, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (May 07, 2009 12:01 pm)
correct, got it fixed blown transistor, thanks
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- #1075 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [jpettibone]
by tman777
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May 07, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: jpettibone (Apr 28, 2009 12:57 pm)
Same thing happened to me Honda CRV. I asked what was worse case scenario. They said an implosion would cost about $3600. Guess what - implosion - paid about $130 for diagnosis. Unemployed - so no air this summer. I think Honda USA has a design flaw.
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- #1076 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [tman777]
by jpettibone
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May 07, 2009 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: tman777 (May 07, 2009 6:10 pm)
Sorry to hear. I agree that there is a flaw. We're currently still waiting to hear from American Honda to see if they will assist in the cost of the repairs, but I think I'm getting the run around. We called AH last tuesday to open a claim. The claim person waited two days to call to discuss the claim. He said he would check with the dealer and get back to me on monday. No call on monday, so on tuesday I called AH again. Claim agent was not available, but note in file said that the service manager at my dealer was out of town all week, and there was no one else at the dealer who could help. Bull-crap (pardon my french). Anyway, I called again today, finally got the right claim agent, and he gave me some double-talk about needing to check with the service manager to find out who along their chain of command denied assistance. They also feel that at 82k, we've gotten good life out of the part. Bull-crap again- when do these parts fail on other cars? They are not generally considered wear items. Plus, the majority of the damage is from the method of failure of the compressor, which I think is their fault too. We started looking for new cars today- we're done with honda. I do not expect any help at this point, and I can't believe Honda would do this based on their reputation.
I also can't believe that more has not been made of this publicly. One would think that some light needs to be shined to get Honda to own up to this.
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