- #1063 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [blueiedgod]
by jpettibone
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Apr 28, 2009 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
I was just trying to make a point- we've had the A/C on from time to time in the Winter, but let's be serious here- who makes it a point to turn on their AC for 10 min a week in the dead of winter? And could you really blame this problem on that?
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- #1064 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [jpettibone]
by jpettibone
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Apr 28, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: jpettibone (Apr 27, 2009 9:39 pm)
Just called the dealer- we had the full implosion, destroying the AC system. Dealer wants $3500 for the repair, and is unwilling to cover any of the cost. I've asked them to call Honda to see if they'll help. I'm not holding my breath. If they won't cover any of the cost, I'll never buy another Honda again.
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- #1065 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [blueiedgod]
by steve_ HOST
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Apr 28, 2009 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
As per Owner's Manual, A/C system should be run for at least 10 minutes
It's a little hard to search, but I don't see anything in the 2004 CR-V owner's manual about running the AC during the winter (page 99 and following).
Maybe this is something new? Or something that only applies to Civics?
I've always heard that A/C compressors come on (at least above 32°F) to dehumidify the air when you run the defroster so the oil gets circulated that way. If your winters are below zero for months, then running the A/C could help lube and condition the seals and hoses.
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- #1066 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [jpettibone]
by jpettibone
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Apr 28, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: jpettibone (Apr 28, 2009 12:57 pm)
The dealer talked to the regional rep, and he's unwilling to cover any of the cost of repair for the AC system. I've started a ticket with American Honda, and they said they would get back to us within 48 hours. The dealer was actually pretty nice about it- they did not charge us for the diagnostic, and we had requested an oil change that they also did for free. We'll keep bringing our Accord there, but there's a good chance we'll have a RAV4 by the end of next month.
Also, the dealer admitted that the regional honda guy had been covering much of the cost of these repairs (and that this problem is not rare), but that recently they've been denying claims for cars with over 75k miles. My question to that was "So, it's reasonable to expect most CR-V compressors to fail around 85k and take the rest of the AC system with it?", to which he admitted that its not really a mileage thing.
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- #1067 of 1373
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Re: Well, I just HAD to make that post... [stevedebi]
by rich126
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Apr 29, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
Wanted to add my name to the expanding springtime compressor failures. 2004 CRV with 72000 miles. Just got back from the Honda dealer who diagnosed the problem as a locked compressor. They could find no evidence of "black death" contamination of the system, so only the compressor, some lines, and filter need replacing. Cost was quoted at $1200, but since we were considered "valued customers" (care purchased and serviced exclusively at that dealer), they are going to work with Honda for parts. My cost will be $500. I accepted that and they are ordering parts. My wife drives this car and loves it. Hopefully the replacement compressor will last for a few more years.
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- #1068 of 1373
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Re: Well, I just HAD to make that post... [rich126]
by jpettibone
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Apr 29, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: rich126 (Apr 29, 2009 7:15 am)
We've also done all our service at the dealer- maybe that will matter to the national rep. The dealer said it would, but then again, it did not matter to the regional rep. I'd take your deal hands down, drive it for a year, and then sell.
I don't understand rejecting this repair for mileage reasons, since this is not a wear item. We were just "lucky" to have it last a bit longer. Maybe if it had failed sooner, it would not have taken the rest of the system with it.
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- #1069 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [blueiedgod]
by 21220
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Apr 30, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 28, 2009 8:47 am)
Everytime you use your defroster your a/c compressor is on. This feature was added to most cars several years ago because people weren't turning on their a/c's for ten minutes a week. I experienced this problem with my a/c on my 2002 CRV. The car has 61000 miles. I had a 72 month 72000 mile extended warranty. Honda doen't care. However after pleading my case that this was the fifth vehicle purchased in the last 15 years from them, they are paying $1675 of the $3900 repair bill.
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- #1070 of 1373
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Re: A/C failure @ 82k miles [21220]
by stevedebi
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May 05, 2009 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: 21220 (Apr 30, 2009 10:49 am)
"Everytime you use your defroster your a/c compressor is on. This feature was added to most cars several years ago because people weren't turning on their a/c's for ten minutes a week. "
I think it was implemented to ensure that dry air got to the windshield; this is more efficient at clearing the windows. It did not (specifically) have to do with A/C or compressors. It has been standard on all my cars since about 1996.
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- #1071 of 1373
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2002 87K miles suddently no AC
by mobility
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May 06, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Not even the fan comes on! Is this how the notorious catastrophic failure manifests itself? I would expect that at least it would work on heat mode/be able to blow hot air. (checked fuses, are ok)
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- #1072 of 1373
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Re: 2002 87K miles suddently no AC [mobility]
by beyondoil
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May 06, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: mobility (May 06, 2009 3:47 pm)
I don't think the fan has anything to do with the AC clutch which is the only thing on the compressor that requires electricity. Are you sure you checked the right fuses?
Hopefully you will find one blown.
Daniel
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