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Acura TL and Premium vs Regular Gas

78 messages,  Last post on Aug 03, 2009 at 5:44 PM

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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [laurasdada] by charles12
Sep 16, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Sep 16, 2008 9:54 am)

I know there is something wrong there. I am testing different source of gas to see what is going to happen.
 
Talk to the dealer and he suggested to add injector cleaner. Just did that and have to wait to run a whole tank of gas.
 
I am definitely having enough with this car. For example, with so many rattle noise still not fixed a few weeks ago a wind noise comes from the passenger side at speed above 40. I tried to figure out the source by blocking the window using scotch tape (for office use) one at a time. I found the source and fixed it tentatively by myself (use scotch tap to block that area).
 
I do not think the dealer can fix all these problems unless you tell them exactly what/where is wrong.
 
That is why I would like to first try by myself and listen to your guys suggestion.
 
Anywhere TL is a very poor qaulity car no matter what you say about it.
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [charles12] by upstatedoc
Sep 16, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: charles12 (Sep 16, 2008 11:10 am)

charles12,
 
Have you heard the expression, "You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar"?
 
There are many people on this forum that have a great deal of knowledge and would go out of their way to help you but when you come in here saying that their cars are "poor qaulity" (sic) and that you hate Acura you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone with any real interest in helping you.
 
There, I feel much better now!
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [upstatedoc] by charles12
Sep 16, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: upstatedoc (Sep 16, 2008 12:01 pm)

upstatedoc,
 
I am an honest person to say what I feel. I can not say I love the car when I am not. I do love my lexus car and recommended it to many of my friends (5 brought lexus, no one got acura within the past 10 months).
 
The worst case is that I will trade in TL with an infiniti or IS350. I feel it is to soon for me to do the trade-in (within less than one year and less than 9000 miles).
 
I do agree with you that "You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar" - thanks.
 
On the other hand, I think I have much more experince on figuring out rattle noise than most of you. - not too bad.
 
Charles Jones
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [charles12] by laurasdada
Sep 16, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: charles12 (Sep 16, 2008 6:22 pm)

Good luck, Chuck. Sorry the TL didn't work out for you. Enjoy whatever warms the cockles of your garage's heart next!
 
Still diggin' my TL after all these years! (And, yes, I've had two rattles: sunroof and driver's side sunshade. Both fixed, no others).
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [charles12] by masonjk
Oct 20, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: charles12 (Sep 16, 2008 6:35 am)

I also have a 08' TL and have had pinging issues since around 2,000 miles. I have taken it into Acura and they checked everything out and said everything was perfect. They gave me 44K to put in gas which I did. I still have pinging issues. I took it back again and they opened case up with Acura Tech line and was told to put top engine cleaner in car which they did. I still have pinging. I have put 93 octane in car from start. I now have almost 9K miles on car and continue to have pinging. I have waited for 1 month for Acura Tech line to respond to local dealer with suggested next step to take to resolve problem and today was told that they claim there is no issue.
The response I was given is it is normal for the car to ping and the engine was designed to have gas used, and most gasolines contain mixture in gas.
 
I have been a big Acura fan in the past and my family has purchased 11 Acura vehicles to date. However, I am very frustrated with their resolution to this issue. They should not put a vehicle on the road that will not be able to work well with gasoline offered in marketplace. If I had heard pinging when test driving the car I would not have purchased it!
I am at the point of needing to take legal action on this as I do not feel I should have to live with this problem, especially when purchasing a higher end vehicle. Pinging causes performance issues, and can cause engine damage over time...things I should not have to knowingly deal with from purchase of a new vehicle.
I do not think it is asking too much to not have a car that pings when I am doing everything asked by the manufacturer- I am using 93 octane ALWAYS! I have had oil changed (in fact early).
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! I had hopes of keeping this car long term to pass onto my daughter, and in fact had front protection applied to car to help keep looking new...anyone in market for a 08'TL
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [masonjk] by charles12
Oct 23, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: masonjk (Oct 20, 2008 4:50 pm)

Masonik,
 
I am sorry to hear that your car has pining noise and could not get it fixed. I believe that Honda car are generally good in quality (I used to have civic and accord) as most of people said here in this forum.
 
Maybe we are the few ones unlucky to get the cars with lots of issues.
 
After putting the engine injector cleaner and run different brand of gas for more than 5 weeks, the pinging noise in my car is gone. I am not sure if this is because of colder weather or gas quality. Where do you live?
 
I once called Acura at CA for my car's rattle noise issues, I got similar response from them saying that the car is designed to like that (sports car) and the rattle noise is normal.
 
Lesson learned is that test-driving a brand new car carefully even it is claimed high quality cars. 1% bad cars out of total is still considered to be good brand car (p-values < 0.01). We are the 1% ones.
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Re: Opposite Advice from Acura...What to Do? [charles12] by masonjk
Oct 23, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: charles12 (Oct 23, 2008 11:16 am)

I am on East coast in MD. They have put top engine cleaner in it and still pings. I run 93 octane all the time, and have used Exxon, Citgo, Shell, BP. not sure if they are the problem or not. I can't believe Acura would put such a finicky car on the road as to mandate 93 octane from one specific gas company must be used. Weather here now is in 50s during day and I can hear it ping with steady acceleration- usually begins to ping around 35 miles/hour up to 45-50. I plan to still go back to Acura. letter received from Acura today indicates they consider this to be normal. My response to that is so they consider engine pinging to be normal, and we know engine pinging causes performance issues, and potentially engine damage over time. Nice to know they consider this normal!
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TL Ping by gbosil
Oct 24, 2008 (4:17 am)
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Charles
 
I have a 2007 TLS and it's as quiet as a mouse. Acura needs to replace your Lemon!

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