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Re: Buy the Accord? [jdelabre]
by ggesq
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Dec 28, 2006 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 11:06 am)
I don't want to go too OT but the base TL makes 258hp and the TL-S makes 286hp at the crank. Once the car gets "strapped in" there is a loss in power when the power is transfered to the wheels, a dyno will show you wheel horsepower which is what matters. Remember, we are talking about a FWD vehicle. It is the amount of power you are getting to the wheels because that is what moves the car. An AT will lose about 20% and a MT will lose about 15% power going from crank to the wheels.
I'm sure you can do the math. It equates to about 230 WHP (wheel hp).
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- #33 of 78
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Re: Buy the Accord? [ggesq]
by jdelabre
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Dec 28, 2006 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm)
Have a nice new year 
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- #34 of 78
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Re: Buy the Accord? [jdelabre]
by ggesq
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Dec 28, 2006 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 4:37 pm)
Happy New Year to you too 
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Premium Fuel Required?
by dave911
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Dec 26, 2006 (5:45 pm)
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Reading through the TL-S brochure, I see that premium fuel is required. That's 20 cents per gallon more than regular gas in my area. Has anyone exsperienced ill effects from running their 2007 3.5 TL-S on regular? What's the worst that can happen?
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- #36 of 78
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [dave911]
by laurasdada
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Dec 26, 2006 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: dave911 (Dec 26, 2006 5:45 pm)
"What's the worst that can happen?"
Decreased mpg and decreased performance. Long term, possible engine damage?
Quick math: 15 gallons fuel/week  +20cents/gallon x 52 weeks = extra $156/year. Is it worth the risk for $156/yr. on a ~$38,000 car? Not to mention the decrease in mpg which will likely offset the "savings" directly at the pump.
I hate paying for premium, but for the above reasons, I do and have kinda gotten used to it for my '05 TL.
Penny-wise and Pound Foolish I won't be!
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [dave911]
by ledwing
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Dec 26, 2006 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: dave911 (Dec 26, 2006 5:45 pm)
Spend the cabbage, or get a cheaper car. i hada spec V ahead of this TLS, and it too was a premium burner. They tell ya it will detune itself based on the gas in it, and who would want that. What if thats the time you mash the gas and need it to go go go. you cant afford to get passed by one of the RWD guys, giving them more ammo. i paid around 36.5 pre thanksgiving, and am happy with my deal. the guy in SD beat it, got it for flat cost or less. Great car, getting more used to it with 800 miles on it now. i stab the gas now and again, and its A OK. if you dont mash the gas on the Fwy, it'll give you 30 MPG on the display. mine is 24 avg, with a bunch of intown stuff.
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [laurasdada]
by louiswei
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Dec 26, 2006 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Dec 26, 2006 6:38 pm)
I still don't and probably never will understand the logic behind on saving $200/year while one's willing to drop 35 big one on a pretty nice car.
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [louiswei]
by ledwing
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Dec 26, 2006 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 26, 2006 7:48 pm)
maybe get the 3.9% loan rate and a chevron card.
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [laurasdada]
by scottm123
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Dec 27, 2006 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Dec 26, 2006 6:38 pm)
I wish I only used 15 gallons of fuel per week. 
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Re: Premium Fuel Required? [louiswei]
by laurasdada
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Dec 27, 2006 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 26, 2006 7:48 pm)
For me it was just overcoming a lifetime of "thrifty" spending regarding ponying up the extra .20/gallon! Even the purchase price of my TL was the bargain of the lot I was comparing/contrasting. I still got the car I wanted, but if I wasn't so cheap I'd probably be driving one of those horribly unreliable BMWs or Mercedes!!! Just kidding, fellow Euro-philes!!! Flame off... 
Maybe when I'm the millionaire next door, I'll spring for the BMW or MB I've always wanted (parents had a few Mercedes many, many years ago...). Nah, evil wife will never let that happen! 
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