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Acura TL and Premium vs Regular Gas

78 messages, Last post on Aug 03, 2009 at 5:44 PM

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#30 of 78 Re: Buy the Accord? [ggesq] by habitat1 Dec 28, 2006 (10:28 am)
Replying to: ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 9:49 am) "There is no way that a TL-S (without any upgrades) got 297hp on a dyno." I'll take your side on that bet, as well. On the other hand, even if it did show that on an overly generous dyno, it would be almost impossible to tell with ones own buttmeter. I have to carefully control my clutch outtake in my 2004 TL 6-speed so as not to spin the wheels and induce wheel hop and torque steer. And that's with the "restated" 258 hp / 238 ft lb. base engine. Adding more horsepower to a FWD platform definitely runs into the law of diminishing returns. Replies to this message: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 11:06 am) ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm) jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 4:37 pm) and 1 more...
#31 of 78 Re: Buy the Accord? [habitat1] by jdelabre Dec 28, 2006 (11:06 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 28, 2006 10:28 am) On a DYNO your on a giant cyclinder. Your car is strapped in. The person who did this called Honda Headquarters and questioned this. They said some have a slightly higher compression, and can put out up to 300 h.p. What the heck, its only 11 h.p. more than the quoted 286. Its a 3.5 liter. If it put out the same H.P. per liter as my nephews 07 Civic Si the 3.5 liter would have 345 h.p. I see it totally possible to get 297 h.p. Whats the big deal. The Civic Si is a 2.0 that puts out 197 h.p. Replies to this message: ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm) jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 4:37 pm) ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:52 pm)
#32 of 78 Re: Buy the Accord? [jdelabre] by ggesq Dec 28, 2006 (4:09 pm)
Replying to: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 11:06 am) I don't want to go too OT but the base TL makes 258hp and the TL-S makes 286hp at the crank. Once the car gets "strapped in" there is a loss in power when the power is transfered to the wheels, a dyno will show you wheel horsepower which is what matters. Remember, we are talking about a FWD vehicle. It is the amount of power you are getting to the wheels because that is what moves the car. An AT will lose about 20% and a MT will lose about 15% power going from crank to the wheels. I'm sure you can do the math. It equates to about 230 WHP (wheel hp). Replies to this message: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 4:37 pm) ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:52 pm)
#33 of 78 Re: Buy the Accord? [ggesq] by jdelabre Dec 28, 2006 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm) Have a nice new year Replies to this message: ggesq (Dec 28, 2006 4:52 pm)
#34 of 78 Re: Buy the Accord? [jdelabre] by ggesq Dec 28, 2006 (4:52 pm)
Replying to: jdelabre (Dec 28, 2006 4:37 pm) Happy New Year to you too
#35 of 78 Premium Fuel Required? by dave911 Dec 26, 2006 (5:45 pm)
Reading through the TL-S brochure, I see that premium fuel is required. That's 20 cents per gallon more than regular gas in my area. Has anyone exsperienced ill effects from running their 2007 3.5 TL-S on regular? What's the worst that can happen? Replies to this message: laurasdada (Dec 26, 2006 6:38 pm) louiswei (Dec 26, 2006 7:48 pm) ledwing (Dec 26, 2006 8:09 pm) laurasdada (Dec 27, 2006 7:57 am) scottm123 (Dec 27, 2006 5:37 am) ledwing (Dec 26, 2006 7:45 pm) jdelabre (Dec 27, 2006 8:07 am) ledwing (Dec 27, 2006 3:47 pm)
#36 of 78 Re: Premium Fuel Required? [dave911] by laurasdada Dec 26, 2006 (6:38 pm)
Replying to: dave911 (Dec 26, 2006 5:45 pm) "What's the worst that can happen?" Decreased mpg and decreased performance. Long term, possible engine damage? Quick math: 15 gallons fuel/week +20cents/gallon x 52 weeks = extra $156/year. Is it worth the risk for $156/yr. on a ~$38,000 car? Not to mention the decrease in mpg which will likely offset the "savings" directly at the pump. I hate paying for premium, but for the above reasons, I do and have kinda gotten used to it for my '05 TL. Penny-wise and Pound Foolish I won't be! Replies to this message: louiswei (Dec 26, 2006 7:48 pm) ledwing (Dec 26, 2006 8:09 pm) laurasdada (Dec 27, 2006 7:57 am) scottm123 (Dec 27, 2006 5:37 am)
#37 of 78 Re: Premium Fuel Required? [dave911] by ledwing Dec 26, 2006 (7:45 pm)
Replying to: dave911 (Dec 26, 2006 5:45 pm) Spend the cabbage, or get a cheaper car. i hada spec V ahead of this TLS, and it too was a premium burner. They tell ya it will detune itself based on the gas in it, and who would want that. What if thats the time you mash the gas and need it to go go go. you cant afford to get passed by one of the RWD guys, giving them more ammo. i paid around 36.5 pre thanksgiving, and am happy with my deal. the guy in SD beat it, got it for flat cost or less. Great car, getting more used to it with 800 miles on it now. i stab the gas now and again, and its A OK. if you dont mash the gas on the Fwy, it'll give you 30 MPG on the display. mine is 24 avg, with a bunch of intown stuff.
#38 of 78 Re: Premium Fuel Required? [laurasdada] by louiswei Dec 26, 2006 (7:48 pm)
Replying to: laurasdada (Dec 26, 2006 6:38 pm) I still don't and probably never will understand the logic behind on saving $200/year while one's willing to drop 35 big one on a pretty nice car. Replies to this message: ledwing (Dec 26, 2006 8:09 pm) laurasdada (Dec 27, 2006 7:57 am)
#39 of 78 Re: Premium Fuel Required? [louiswei] by ledwing Dec 26, 2006 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: louiswei (Dec 26, 2006 7:48 pm) maybe get the 3.9% loan rate and a chevron card.

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