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Replying to: paisan (Dec 31, 2007 8:41 pm) Mitsu DOES have reliability issues? Are you sure? Any hard data to support your statement? Until 2005 Mitsubishis sold/made in US, were based on Chrysler powertrain, and on parts, which was made by Detroit suppliers. The result is mediocre reliability, damaged reputation and lower resale values. On the other hand, the current Outlander is build entirely in Japan. As a result the Outlander demonstrates excellent best in its class reliability. The Outlander along with Eclipse made Consumer Reports top 5 most reliable in its class: CR Best and Worst (there are NO any Mitsubishis there wich appear in the least reliable list). Also according to Consumer Reports auto reliability forecast for 2008 vehicles, The Outlander along with Honda Element, named the best for predicted reliability in its segment, beating Toyota RAV4 and Honda CRV: Outlander is best for predicted reliability. Mitsu also demonstrates spectacular reliability in 3-week long world toughest Dakar rally beating every other brand 7 years in a row. Forget Consumer Reports and Dakar for a moment. Check out the real world owner satisfaction at all there major sites: Edmunds, Yahoo Autos and MSN Autos: the Outlander consistently across all three sites has higher owner satisfaction ratings vs. RAV4, while RAV4 owners report various problems. In addition to an excellent reliability, better owner satisfaction record, the Outlander offers much better warranty, free roadside assistance, better AWD system, better transmission and more equipment. Overall the Outlander is a much better balanced car, while RAV4 has not much going besides a great engine. Look at this comparo: 
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 31, 2007 8:41 pm) People WERE talking, but not anymore. No way Mitsubishi is going tio leave world biggest market. >> They just discontinued their re-badge Dakota pickup I heard. Thanks god. Mitsubishi is done with Chrysler, like I've said. Getting rid of dodge based track is completely consistant to the Mitsubishi's quality commitment.
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Replying to: chelentano (Jan 01, 2008 2:21 pm)  Good for Mitsu getting rid of Chrysler. See that's the problem, you make a bad bed, then you are dinged for it, even if it's not your fault. -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 01, 2008 5:12 pm) >> Well the "all new outlander" has no reputation to go on. So we'll see how it is in a few years, like 5 The Consumer Reports has an opposite opinion, so they put the Outlander on CR's top 5 most reliable in its class for the past reliability, AND they name the “all new” Outlander as the best for predicted reliability in its segment, beating both Toyota RAV4 and Honda CRV. Why? Because the highest in industry Outlander’s reliability ratings are based on both 2nd generation and 1st generation data, both of which was build in Japan and both have nothing to do with Chrysler. No coincidence that the real world owner satisfaction at all there major sites Edmunds, Yahoo Autos and MSN Autos is consistently higher for the Outlander vs. RAV4, which only proves that the CR made the correct assessment of the Outlander’s both past and predicted reliability.
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Replying to: chelentano (Jan 01, 2008 8:27 pm) I have no problems with Mitsu, heck for the longest time I wanted a Eclipse GSX, and I'm no fan of Toyota, however, percieved reliability by the general public will outweigh the actual data in the court of public opinion. Toyota and Honda IMHO have been living on their past reputations, whereas smaller/less known companies such as Mitsu, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia, must have higher reliability in order to compensate for the lack of reputation they have v. Honda/Toyota. Unfortunately for those who aren't "car nuts" as I'm sure many folks here know and have in their families generally will keep buying Toyota/Honda because they don't know or care about anything other than that their previous Honda or Toyota worked w/o a problem for the 5 years they had it. That is why the Rav4 and CRV will likely outsell Outlander and Forester. -mike |
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Replying to: chelentano (Jan 01, 2008 2:07 pm) Also, I would like those of you to look at the bumpers real close on the Outlander....every one of them at the dealership I went to , the paint on the bumper did not match the car. Every one I looked at had that problem.....also, the RAV4 is more fun to drive. To each their own....... I love mine!! |
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Looking for a 7 passenger, preferrably car based SUV. Top choices right now are the Verzcruz and Highlander, with the CX-9, Enclave/Outlook/Acadia on the back burner, mostly because they are so long. Any other choices I am overlooking that are low $30s or below?
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Replying to: cl8855 (Jan 09, 2008 6:23 am) |
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| me and my wife are looking to switch from a too small car to a suv for myself,( she has a canyan truck) we need one with a third row because of parents family etc we have no kids.Dont know if we should take a chance on hyundai veracruz or kia borrego, we have ruled out the small sized models I know the honda pilot is great but pricey also we also need to have power seats and lumbar because of back issues, any help would be appreciated thanks | |
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