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Re: 0-60 in 5.6 Sec. [coolrunning]
by sumitomotype65
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Apr 05, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: coolrunning (Apr 05, 2008 9:08 am)
What's great about the new Charger, other than the retro styling and the 6.1 Hemi, is that it went from concept to showroom in the usual quick Chrysler time frame. Just like the Viper, Prowler, and PT Cruiser. How long has GM hyped the new Camaro? Seems like just after the Mustang's latest redesign in '05 we started to here about the resurrected Camaro. I'm glad GM is bringing it back. It's a classic model that other companies would kill for to have that kind of name recognition for a new car. They were shortsighted when they killed it, focusing on trucks/SUVs. Just don't talk about it for 5 yrs. Just do it. Something I worry about is Chrysler's shaky future. Cerberus talks a good game as far as saving Chrysler. But their track record says Chrysler is just their latest churn & burn takeover. What if I need new cupholders for my 300 in 2012? LOL
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Re: 0-60 in 5.6 Sec. [sumitomotype65]
by coolrunning
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Apr 05, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: sumitomotype65 (Apr 05, 2008 10:11 am)
This is true. I wish things had worked out better and the marriage between Daimler and Chrysler was still intact. Of the former "Big Three", Chrysler always seemed to have the innovation to strike out on new paths when the others preferred to standby and watch. Originality in design and technology was always the name of the game. I think they have made some of the most beautiful cars ever in the last 10 years. I owned two 300M's before my 300C's and loved the sleek styling of them. I would much rather see GM break up than Chrysler anyday. It seems that since the mega conglomerate absorbed such companies as Buick, Oldsmobile and Cadillac (all originally independent) the quality of the products dimished rapidly as did the originality (i.e., personality) of each product line. I would rather see a lot of small companies thrive than the monster corporations, who typically lack the imagination needed to thrill us with new ideas.
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Re: 0-60 in 5.6 Sec. [sumitomotype65]
by coolrunning
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Apr 05, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: sumitomotype65 (Apr 05, 2008 10:11 am)
This is true. I wish things had worked out better and the marriage between Daimler and Chrysler was still intact. Of the former "Big Three", Chrysler always seemed to have the innovation to strike out on new paths when the others preferred to standby and watch. Originality in design and technology was always the name of the game. I think they have made some of the most beautiful cars ever in the last 10 years. I owned two 300M's before my 300C's and loved the sleek styling of them. I would much rather see GM break up than Chrysler anyday. It seems that since the mega conglomerate absorbed such companies as Buick, Oldsmobile and Cadillac (all originally independent) the quality of the products dimished rapidly as did the originality (i.e., personality) of each product line. I would rather see a lot of small companies thrive than the monster corporations, who typically lack the imagination needed to thrill us with new ideas.
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Re: 0-60 in 5.6 Sec. [coolrunning]
by sls002
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Apr 06, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: coolrunning (Apr 05, 2008 3:39 pm)
GM is one hundred years old this year. So Buicks have been rapidly going downhill for 100 years  Somehow I think your post is way overblown. Leland supplied Oldsmobile with engines way back when, but Oldmobile did not want Leland's newest, and best engine. So Leland started building Cadillac's to use the newest and best engine. Leland's Cadillac was a mid-priced car, not a luxury car. Without GM taking these independent companies over, they would have meandered down some totally different path, probably all going bankrupt during the depression.
I would agree that in the last 25 years (from about 1980 or so) GM has drifted along and not done well. I think that they are improving now. Actually, GM probably was at its best in the 1960's, when they should have started down a different path than they actually took, but hindsight is always better than foresight.
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Re: Cars with Northstar Engines [stevenw]
by rrosell
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Mar 15, 2009 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: stevenw (Jun 30, 2006 11:54 am)
Tell me about it! A 98 De Ville, which I love, but the leak is there and now the whole AC unit has to be replaced. Time to go. Would like to find another sitting in a garage with 300 miles on it.
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