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Cadillac DTS/STS vs. Chrysler 300/300C

75 messages,  Last post on Mar 15, 2009 at 4:35 PM

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac DTS, Chrysler 300C SRT-8, Chrysler 300, Cadillac STS, Chrysler, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Northstar Redeux by stevenw
Jul 24, 2006 (7:18 am)
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Sorry, should have mentioned I was talking about the first gen NS engines with the leaking oil pan gasket. I've been trying to sell my 1998 Aurora around town (after I bought my 300 Limited I have no need for the older car) and anyone who knows anything about first gen NS engines always asks me if the oil pan gasket has been replaced yet. If I say "no" they won't take the car if I give it to them. I'll have to sell it to a private party and tell them that it's their choice to replace it or not. I have chosen not to becasue I'm not going to put $2,000 into a $6,000 car. The occasional drips on the garage floor aren't that bothersome and the car is never low on oil so it's not a continuous or high volume leak - it's just annoying.
 
I did say that no one normally keeps their cars long enough to run into this problem implying that the car was older (in my case it's 8 years old).
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CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS TOPIC IS DORMANT by bremertong
Oct 02, 2006 (7:25 pm)
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These two fine cars do in many ways compete with each other.
Both sedans, both with great looks and engines and yet there have been no posts here for over two months. I think the decision to buy one or the other is helpful to know about and would greatly appreciate learning from others what conclusions they are drawing or drew in making the choice. I own a 2004 Deville which has been a good car for me but I have not received good service at the local Cadillac dealership so I am considering replacing it with a
300C when my warranty runs out in 2007. Are there things I should be considering in potentially making the switch, is the price to value better in one or the other? Any other recent news I should be looking at in evaluating which car to pick for my next? Hope this site will become active again soon.
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A more sensible comparison by sls002
Oct 03, 2006 (7:02 am)
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would be the Chrysler 300 with the Buick Lucerne. The Lucerne offers a V6 as well as the V8, as does the 300. The Lucerne is priced about the same as the 300 or at least is much closer than the DTS.
 
For really great service, legend has it that Rolls Royce is unmatched.....
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APPLES AND ORANGES by bremertong
Oct 03, 2006 (7:35 pm)
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To compare Cadillac, Chrysler and Rolls in the same vain is really amusing, I'm slightly sore from laughing!
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [bremertong] by sls002
Oct 04, 2006 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Oct 03, 2006 7:35 pm)

I found this forum quite amusing when it was started...
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [sls002] by bremertong
Oct 04, 2006 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 04, 2006 6:20 am)

Then why waste your time on it??
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [bremertong] by sls002
Oct 05, 2006 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Oct 04, 2006 8:29 pm)

It amuses me.
 
Seriously though, I do not think that the Chrysler 300/300C is a luxury car. It may compare with the Buick Lucerne, although I think that it falls somewhat short in terms of luxury. The 300 is a nice large RWD sedan, and offers a big (too big in my opinion) V8. The 300 is not a sports sedan either. For the money, the 300 is a nice RWD car. GM is going to have some RWD sedans in a few more years that may be much better. Right now I think, for the money, the CTS is a better choice if the size is not too small. The CTS's V6 is more fuel efficient, and, if you really want a sports sedan, it is a sports sedan.
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [sls002] by bremertong
Oct 05, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 05, 2006 6:17 am)

I don't feel this forum is a waste of time for me and that's
why I keep coming back to check. I did not choose the forum title but think it would have been better if they had narrowed the forum to Cadillac DTS VS Chrysler 300C and not included the 300, 300 limited and 300 touring models. As you mentioned the latter models are V6 engines and more comparable to the other cars you referred to in recent posts. My own preference would be a Cadillac CTS in v6 models if that were my choice versus the Chrysler 300, touring, or limited
editions. So far as the Cadillac DTS is concerned, I like the front better than my 2004 Deville but think the side view in 2006 DTS is to plain for an upscale car. On balance the recent model Devilles hold up very well to the new DTS
in appearance, of course that is a matter of personal taste.
As an aside I can say that my Lincoln Town car (in Gold) turns heads all the time, it is by far the most attractive
looking car (to me) that I have ever owned. My 98 Deville
also in Gold being a close second, it also turned heads all the time.
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [bremertong] by sls002
Oct 06, 2006 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Oct 05, 2006 8:57 pm)

If you wanted to limit it to only the 300C, then the DTS should be limited to only the performance model. I assume that you are aware that the performance model has a higher performance engine than the base northstar along with a performance axle ratio.
 
Still, even the 300C's interior is made up of too much hard plastic for a luxury car I think. Cadillac is improving their interiors, but still have a long way to go before they are worth the price tags that they have.
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Re: APPLES AND ORANGES [sls002] by bremertong
Oct 06, 2006 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 06, 2006 6:20 am)

The basis for my comparison was the engines power although I have been aware of the interior, exterior quality issue. The DTS is listed by Edmunds as having 292 horsepower and 288 lbs of torque. The Chrysler 300C as stated by Edmunds has 340 Horsepower and 390 lbs of Torque. The figures for Cadillac were the upper end performance model and for Chrysler the 300C. The price of and auto is often very much a factor of the engine performance and at the above stats the Chrysler is a bargain at about $36,000 vs the DTS at over $48,000. True as you mentioned the 300C has some less expensive materials but given its' shortcomings it is a bargain at $36,000 if the build quality is going to hold up. As a final thought, I don't think the lower end Chryslers should be in this forum in that the price starts at about $ 25,000 vs $ 41000 for the low end DTS and the difference in engine size of V6 and 190 horsepower for 300 and V8 for the base DTS with 275 Horsepower.

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