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Cadillac DTS, Chrysler 300C SRT-8, Chrysler 300, Cadillac STS, Chrysler, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#74 of 83 Re: 0-60 in 5.6 Sec. [coolrunning]
Apr 06, 2008 (2:05 pm)
GM is one hundred years old this year. So Buicks have been rapidly going downhill for 100 years Somehow I think your post is way overblown. Leland supplied Oldsmobile with engines way back when, but Oldmobile did not want Leland's newest, and best engine. So Leland started building Cadillac's to use the newest and best engine. Leland's Cadillac was a mid-priced car, not a luxury car. Without GM taking these independent companies over, they would have meandered down some totally different path, probably all going bankrupt during the depression.
I would agree that in the last 25 years (from about 1980 or so) GM has drifted along and not done well. I think that they are improving now. Actually, GM probably was at its best in the 1960's, when they should have started down a different path than they actually took, but hindsight is always better than foresight.
#75 of 83 Re: Cars with Northstar Engines [stevenw]
Mar 15, 2009 (4:35 pm)
Tell me about it! A 98 De Ville, which I love, but the leak is there and now the whole AC unit has to be replaced. Time to go. Would like to find another sitting in a garage with 300 miles on it.
#76 of 83 Re: DTS VERSUS CHRYSLER 300C AND OR SRT [xtec]
Dec 03, 2009 (2:37 am)
You are correct. The last Pacifica was built in 2008. I can't understand why they would drop such a beautiful design and continue to build something like the PT Cruiser. At least the Pacifica was useable and comfortable.
#77 of 83 Chrysler 300 S
Sep 02, 2010 (7:15 am)
I just checked out a 2010 300 S. It's a new model designation. I think it is one of the finest 300's I've seen. Dark grille smoked head and tail lamp lenses and more. The one I looked was white which I think is the best color because of the darked out parts. It had every option except a moonroof and listed for about 38,500 I think. Anyway, does everyone else think it is as fine as I do? My main problem is that the 2011 is a total redesign and it will be outdated in a few months. I really don't know what to do. I guess there may be a 2011 300 S, but can;'t say for sure.
#78 of 83 Re: As One of The folks That Suggested This Forum [bremertong]
Feb 08, 2011 (8:37 pm)
#79 of 83 Re: Chrysler 300 S [nace818]
Jun 19, 2011 (11:26 am)
the chrysler 300S will be out in the summer as a 2012 model. the interior looks great... love the red/black leather of the teasers i have seen. i heard that it will be available with either the awesome v6 (we have a 2011 300 limited) or hemi v8. hmm... i am wondering if the 5.7 liter v8 model will still be called "300C" when the "S" marque is applied.
we needed to replace our older 300C we leased (for a 2011 model) before the '12 model year when things get pretty exciting at chrysler: the 8 speed gated automatics (v6 only), "S" models; the all new SRT-8 with 6.4 liter hemi v8; AWD 6 & 8 cylinder versions; etc.
well, i only have great things to say about the '11 300 limited based on our experience, but would wait for the '12 to get the new transmission and "S" edition, as well as AWD option for BOTH v6 and v8 models. for '11, AWD is sold only with the hemi v8.
#80 of 83 Re: Chrysler 300 S [1atomic]
Jun 20, 2011 (4:50 am)
I just traded in my 2006 300C Heritage Edition on a 2011 Town & Country, to upgrade our road trip vehicle. My only complaint with my 300C was the small trunk; otherwise it was a fabulous road car... I was surprised to discover how much the Town & Country had improved since our 2000 model. The new 3.6L V6 engine is said to become one of the standard choices available in all Chrysler models soon, including the Jeep line. I am very impressed with this engine so far. In the T&C, it is mated with a 6 speed transmission. On the highway I have been able to get 27 mpg at 80 mph! I can't imagine what would happen if I had an 8 speed. As much as I love my 5.7 HEMI (I still have another one), I am convinced the technology has improved far beyond my expectations and I may very well end up with a 300S as well. These are the best Chryslers ever made!
#81 of 83 Chrysler 300C reliability and durability
Jul 20, 2012 (9:29 pm)
I'm a baby boomer who likes RWD cars. I currently drive a 1992 Mercury Gran Marquis which has been discontinued by Ford. Now that I'm in the market for a new vehicle, I would like to still buy a RWD if possible but I know my choices are limited. Therefore, I would like to consider the 2012 or 2013 Chrysler 300C with the Hemi since I grew up with V-8's. However, I have a concern about Chrysler products because back in the day, Chryslers always had quality control issues especially around fit and finish and people who owned them would say they were good for 3 years or so and then you could expect maintenance issues. Also, I wonder how Chrysler cars will hold up now that the corporation is owned by Fiat. Can anyone provide me with some feedback about these concerns and their experiences/issues with the 300C? I'm also considering the Cadillac CTS, Mercedes C and E series, BMW 5-series, Mustang GT, and if I get desperate even the Lincoln MKS if I can't find a good RWD. Thanks for your help!
#82 of 83 Re: Chrysler 300C reliability and durability [fearlessfly]
Jul 21, 2012 (6:14 pm)
It is nice to see there are still people out there who are subjective enough to ask for input from long time owners instead of simply assuming that Chryslers deserve the disrespect they often get from those who only remember the "K" cars of the late 70's/early 80's. I have owned Fords and GM products as well as Hondas and Toyotas. My first Chrysler product was a Plymouth Voyager. It was an incredibly useful vehicle that served our family well for nearly 10 years. I drove a Mercury Sable during this time that was the absolute worst car I have ever owned. It was in the dealership more than my garage and I eventually bought a 1999 Chrysler 300M to replace it. It was used, with 44.000 miles on it. I wasn't sure if I was going to regret it but I fell in love with this car. I never had a problem with this car. It was such a sweet ride, beautiful, loaded and just a pleasure to drive. I traded it after 5 years for another used 300M. This one was a 2004 Special. It was the upgraded model of the 300M with 18" wheels, dual exhaust, ground effects, HID headlights, two-tone leather interior, two-tone paint and a high performance V6 with the same 5 speed autostick transmission. It was a blast to drive and a real head turner. By this time, we had also upgraded our van to a 2000 Chrysler Town & Country LXI which was loaded with everything you could need. My wife retired in 2006 and I decided she had been driving minivans for long enough and I wanted to treat her to a new 300C. After researching them for months, I settled on the 2006 Chrysler 300C Heritage Edition. It was a limited edition with special packaged features that made it stand out from all the rest. It was also the only way you could get a red one (Crystal Inferno Red Pearlcoat) at the time. So, I had two of the best Chryslers in my garage side by side: a 2004 300M and a 2006 300C. Life was good. That is until I drove the 300C more and more. The 5.7L HEMI V8 was a far cry from the HP V6 in the 300M. I began to realize that I had bought her the car I really wanted. Six months passed and I began to search for an identical twin 300C HE. I found one in Dallas, Texas and made the deal over the phone. I drove over 500 miles to trade my beloved 300M Special in on the second 300C HE. It was fun to have two identical cars. She loved hers and I loved mine. We even got special license plates: MY300C and HR300C. We never have had any mechanical or electrical problems with any of our Chrysler products. After 5 years, my wife said she loved her car, but she missed her van. We used to go tent camping and it is tough to carry all the stuff we did in the van in the trunk of a 300C! As much as I loved the cars, I decided she was right. I could trade one of them in on a new van and still enjoy the other. She is now the proud owner of a 2011 Chrysler Town & Country Limited that has about everything they offer on the option list. What impressed me most about this version is the engine. The 3.6L V6 Pentstar engine has 282 HP and a 6 speed transmission behind it. We have put about 15.000 miles on it with no problems. We like to take long road trips through the Rocky Mountains and the deserts of the Southwest and this vehicle is the best road car we have ever owned! It is powerful and fuel efficient. Comfort is its main virtue and it is hard to believe how far they have come since the first generation. I would highly recommend Chrysler products to anyone. I am still driving my 2006 300C and will probably continue to keep it forever. I have nearly 60,000 miles on it and it has the original brakes. I am currently shopping for tires, but can probably get another 10K out of them. If I was shopping for a new car, I would consider the 2012 300C and the 300 Limited. As much as I enjoy my HEMI, I would highly recommend you test drive both for at least a day. Yes, the HEMI is fast! But, for all around performance in all conditions, you might find yourself lovong the 300 Limited. The same V6 Pentstar engine that is in my 2011 Town & Country now resides under the hood of the 300 Limited, but with an 8 speed transmission! I rented one for two weeks recently, and saw 28 to 31 mpg average. It runs better than my 1985 Mustang GT. You really owe it to yourself to give them a try. I prefer to buy American, and these are very reliable and durable cars, unlike anything the big three were building 20 years ago. On that note, when Daimler-Benz got involved with Chrysler it was a very positive influence. My 300C benefited by getting a Mercedes 5 speed autostick transmission, the suspension design of a Mercedes 300 series and much larger and effective 4 wheel disc brakes. There are subtle torsion bar and handling tweeks found under the car that were added by the Germans as well. The interior of the new Chysler 300 is so much improved over my 2006, I am jealous. It is a great update and it makes the driving experience much more pleasurable. The ride quality is much improved as well. The new 300C is a bit firmer due to the larger wheels, high performance low profile tires, and stiffer suspension for snappy cornering. I prefer the smoother ride of the 300 Limited. Unless you are going to drive around corners like you are attempting to evade arrest, a four door sedan should ride more like a luxury car. (I am not impressed with the ride of the new Cadillacs & BMWs for the same reason). Give Chrysler a fair chance. They are a great value, and much more reliable and durable than you might think. I will likely be driving them exclusively for the rest of my days. Since Daimler-Benz decided to pull out allowing FIAT to buy about 30% of the company, the infusion of new money and management has already had a positive effect. Chrysler shed over 200 non-productive dealerships nationwide keeping only the productive franchises open. The product lineup has been culled (as it should) eliminating specific vehicles for which the market was already saturated with or there was hardly any market at all (i.e. the Prowler, Crossfire). New models abound and Chrysler has become the best version of itself striking fear in the competition. The industry is more competitive than ever and Chrysler has proven to be a valid contender. Chrysler actually builds and sells concepts that others were just dreaming about. Seriously, no other company can provide you with more value, integrity, style and fun all in one package. They produce an excellent product. The next challenge for them is to bring the service departments up to the same high standards.
#83 of 83 Dodge Charger Reliability/Durability Issues
Aug 04, 2012 (8:49 pm)
I'm a baby boomer who likes large RWD cars. I currently drive a 1992 Mercury Gran Marquis which has been discontinued by Ford. Now that I'm in the market for a new vehicle, I would like to still buy a RWD if possible but I know my choices are limited. Therefore, I would like to consider the 2012 or 2013 Dodge Charger with the Hemi since I grew up with V-8's or maybe just the SE model. However, I have a concern about Chrysler/Dodge products because back in the day, Chryslers/Dodges always had quality control issues especially around fit and finish and people who owned them would say they were good for 3 years or so and then you could expect maintenance issues. Also, I wonder how Chrysler/Dodge cars will hold up now that the corporation is owned by Fiat. The police department in my town use 2010-2011 Chargers with the 6Cyl and they do not like the Charger because they always have maintenance problems especially with the suspensions.Can anyone provide me with some feedback about these concerns and their experiences/issues with the Dodge Charger? I'm also considering the Cadillac CTS, Mercedes C and E series, BMW 5-series, Mustang GT, Chrysler 300C and if I get desperate even the Lincoln MKS if I can't find a good RWD. Thanks for your help!