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#190 of 254 Re: What were you expecting? [sdc2] by bay26 Jan 09, 2008 (4:58 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 07, 2008 6:30 am) Under the Revised "real world" EPA ratings, I'm getting about 18 MPG on city driving. That's 2 MPG below average. That's $6 bucks on every refuel. So it seems 3rd roll may have something to do with it. Replies to this message: typesix (Jan 11, 2008 6:37 pm) bay26 (Jan 18, 2008 11:28 am) samiam_68 (Jan 18, 2008 8:18 pm)
#191 of 254 Re: What were you expecting? [bay26] by typesix Jan 11, 2008 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: bay26 (Jan 09, 2008 4:58 pm) 3rd doesn't weigh 300 lbs. On 2004-2007 Highlanders, an optional 3rd row only adds 50 lbs, so it is very doubtful a RAV4 3rd row weighs 300 lbs. Replies to this message: bay26 (Jan 18, 2008 11:28 am) samiam_68 (Jan 18, 2008 8:18 pm)
#192 of 254 Re: What were you expecting? [typesix] by bay26 Jan 18, 2008 (11:28 am)
Replying to: typesix (Jan 11, 2008 6:37 pm) According to Toyota website:   Gross Vehicle Weight Rating -- GVWR (lb.) (2WD/4WD)   4-cylinder models 4430/4535   with third-row seats 4730/4865   That's 330lbs extra for a V4 AWD with 3rd roll. Back to my question of loosing 2MPG because this. Anybody out there that can confirm this? Replies to this message: samiam_68 (Jan 18, 2008 8:18 pm)
#193 of 254 Re: What were you expecting? [bay26] by samiam_68 Jan 18, 2008 (8:18 pm)
Replying to: bay26 (Jan 18, 2008 11:28 am) GVWR is Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - weight of the car PLUS passengers and cargo. 3rd row seat allows for two more passengers, or about 300+ lbs.
#194 of 254 Good News/Bad News on RAV4 I4 AWD MPG by verdi942 Jan 21, 2008 (10:58 am)
First the good news - there seems to be a "break-in effect" on mpg. Passing 4,000 miles, I noticed a smoother running engine, and an average of 24 mpg per fillup, up from about 22 mpg when the car was new. We're talking equal miles of NYC traffic, suburban short hops and highway runs. In traffic it seems to get about 22mpg. Now for the bad news - this SUV/Crossover is a brick on the highway with lots of drag - how else to explain the 26 mpg or so I'm getting [EPA rates it at 23/27 mpg]? The I4 engine, which SEEMS efficient [165 hp from only 144 cubic inches] has trouble dragging that body through the air at highway speeds, without using too much gas. Very disappointing. Has anyone out there seen 30 mpg? A little disclosure, to show that designing for high mpg is not all science. My other vehicle is an '04 Buick Rendezvous FWD. It has a 3.4L 12-valve pushrod engine and it weighs 500 lbs more than my RAV4, yet it averages 24mpg and tops 30mpg on the highway. And, it's no streamliner. True, no AWD either, but still..... Replies to this message: cfreas1 (Jan 21, 2008 11:09 am) verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 11:56 am) sdc2 (Jan 21, 2008 12:26 pm) verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 12:47 pm)
#195 of 254 Re: Good News/Bad News on RAV4 I4 AWD MPG [verdi942] by cfreas1 Jan 21, 2008 (11:09 am)
Replying to: verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 10:58 am) I'll add my experience to the mix. I took my '07 FWD V6 LTD from Atlanta, GA to NJ and back over the holidays. I started the trip with 1100 miles on the odometer. I averaged 27 MPG with an average hwy speed of 70 mph. I am getting 24 MPG around town.   Chuck Replies to this message: verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 11:56 am)
#196 of 254 Re: Good News/Bad News on RAV4 I4 AWD MPG [cfreas1] by verdi942 Jan 21, 2008 (11:56 am)
Replying to: cfreas1 (Jan 21, 2008 11:09 am) Thanks, cfreas1. You confirm my suspicion that the V6 will actually use LESS gas than the I4, especially on the highway. Sounds like you have a nice light foot around town, too.
#197 of 254 Re: Good News/Bad News on RAV4 I4 AWD MPG [verdi942] by sdc2 Jan 21, 2008 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 10:58 am) It's worth noting that the new "real world" 2008 EPA rating for the AWD 4 cylinder is 20 mpg city, 25 mpg highway, so it seems you are about where the powers that be expect. They changed how they estimate mpg because the old system was usually too optimistic.   The 2008 V6 AWD EPA rating is 19 city, 26 highway. One more reason I could not resist the V6...   Nothing wrong with pushrod engines, a big 'ol Buick LeSabre gets 29-30 highway with a 3.8 liter pushrod engine. Replies to this message: verdi942 (Jan 21, 2008 12:47 pm)
#198 of 254 Re: Good News/Bad News on RAV4 I4 AWD MPG [sdc2] by verdi942 Jan 21, 2008 (12:47 pm)
Replying to: sdc2 (Jan 21, 2008 12:26 pm) For the record, my '04 Rendezvous was rated 19/26 mpg using the old "optimistic" EPA methods. I thought the 23/27 EPA rating for my '07 RAV4 AWD WAS using the new method. And, yes, that old 3.8 GM pushrod V6 is/was very efficient. My '02 Regal LS routinely topped 30mpg.
#199 of 254 RW Gas Mileage by cbond1 Jan 22, 2008 (4:55 pm)
Just got a 2007 Limited 2WD I4 with 11.5K. First tank- 315 miles/29.8mpg. Mostly in town, though not city. Some highway, about 40miles. Thought this wasn't bad since I'm coming off a 1995 Chevy Blazer with a V6 and getting about 18 at best.

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