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#41 of 6956 Re: [wale_bate1 #38] by sunilb Jun 07, 2004 (3:10 pm)
Replying to: wale_bate1 (Jun 07, 2004 2:35 pm) wow... that is a significant increase in size. I, too, was hoping for something more modest. Looks like there won't be a premium compact sedan out there.   Funny how the new crop is either too small (e.g., Volvo S40) or too big (e.g., G35, TL).
#42 of 6956 by wale_bate1 Jun 07, 2004 (3:26 pm)
I'm actually very much intrigued now by the A3, as far as sizing goes. Probably because I find the current IS plenty roomy for my needs.   I'd rather have RWD, but if Lexus wants to build 'em bigger and can't give me a wagon to boot, Quattro will have to do!
#43 of 6956 Weight & Distribution by riez Jun 08, 2004 (4:18 am)
Not sure I'd focus too much on any changes in overall length or wheelbase. (Lexus could increase wheelbase and not increase overall length by much.)   More important numbers will be weight and weight distribution. BMW, Audi, and Jaguar have shown it is possible to hold down weight gains and sometimes have weight reductions for new models.   The IS needs to improve its weight distribution. Hope Lexus is shooting for 50/50. They need to move the battery into the trunk (like the 3 Series), reduce weight of hold, use more aluminum up front, etc.
#44 of 6956 Re: sunilb [sunilb #37] by dewey Jun 08, 2004 (5:26 am)
Replying to: sunilb (Jun 07, 2004 11:30 am) "BMW lowering prices?? I've never heard of such a thing!"   Yes BMW does lower prices! My proof is in my garage. I bought my 99 BMW 323 with a 2.5L engine at a far lower price that what a 2.5L sold for during the 92 model year(BMW325). In addition my BMW was much improved vs. the 92 model. Although it is true that my 323 may not have the level of luxury features as the 92 325 model, my 323 compensates this deficiency with better performance/handling.
#45 of 6956 by wale_bate1 Jun 08, 2004 (7:27 am)
Not really germane, but interesting factoid: the current IS's springboard, Altezza, does in fact have nearly a 50/50 distro.   It was adding the inline six and attentdent acoutrements that skewed the pooch, so to speak. Too bad we Americans are so down on four-bangers in premium marques, eh?   That said, the I-6 was a big part of my priority list!   Regardless of the inescapable truths in your observations, riez, it will be a bigger car. The market may respond well to that, but I doubt I will. They're gonna have to make it one hell of a Bimmer beater (straight line, stopping, sideways and feel) to entice me into a bigger car with a (even if new and more potent) V6 rather than an I6.
#46 of 6956 Hybrid option? by wco81 Jun 08, 2004 (7:44 am)
If as Toyota/Lexus claims that their hybrid system improves performance as well as increases fuel-efficiency and lowers emissions, a hybrid IS or ES should be a no-brainer.   But hybrid sure doesn't sound sporty or sexy does it?
#47 of 6956 C&D by sunilb Jun 08, 2004 (9:35 am)
in their latest issue mentions that the IS won't be getting a hybrid option... though, the GS and LS will get them.   I actually would really like to see an IS set up this way... all-wheel drive with great performance, low emissions and good gas mileage!
#48 of 6956 No AWD, Please! by riez Jun 08, 2004 (9:40 am)
sunilb... AWD adds weight, price, and complexity compared to RWD, not to mention reductions in fuel economy and, often, useable interior or trunk space. AWD is a real lose-lose!   Run summer tires in 3 seasons and winter tires in winter. Replies to this message: sunilb (Jun 08, 2004 2:29 pm)
#49 of 6956 Re: No AWD, Please! [riez #46] by sunilb Jun 08, 2004 (2:29 pm)
Replying to: riez (Jun 08, 2004 9:40 am) ...but with a hybrid set-up I believe they could use a slightly smaller IC engine, so the weight of the hybrid setup driving the front wheels would be offset by the engine driving the rear wheels.
#50 of 6956 Weight is the Enemy by riez Jun 08, 2004 (2:50 pm)
sunilb... Weight adversely impacts braking, handling, and acceleration.   A hybrid set up will add complexity and expense. For little benefit and a lot of opportunity loss.   The IS is NOT an economy car. A good 6th overdrive and the right final drive should let it get 28-30 mpg on highway. I'd say that is more than sufficient for a sport sedan. Replies to this message: sunilb (Jun 08, 2004 4:36 pm)

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