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by boomsama
Apr 14, 2004 (2:57 am)
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i heard that by the time the LF-S was created, the blueprints for the '06 GS were already settled, therefore 06 GS doesnt look like the LF-S
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2006 IS by masc
Apr 19, 2004 (6:50 pm)
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The next IS is said to be a REAL 3-series competitor.
AND sedan, coupe, convertible and all-wheel drive IS’s will be available. yay.
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by masc
Apr 19, 2004 (6:53 pm)
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AND the next IS is planned to come out 6 months after the 2006 GS (which will come out in January, 2005). Which MEANS that the next IS will be out be the summer of 2005. A bit too long to wait, but that is probably because Lexus has to complete its new identity in Japan as in 2005 Lexus will finally be introduced in Japan as Lexus not Lexus's badged with Toyota emblems anymore.
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masc by lexusguy
Apr 19, 2004 (9:13 pm)
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Correct. I expect great things for the new IS. The current car suffers because its essentially a Toyota Altezza with an L badge on the front, and it wasnt really designed with luxury in mind, and doesnt fit the Lexus brand image. The Infinti G35 has some of the same problems, mostly the interior which is fine for a Nissan Skyline, but a little lacking for an Infinti. That's supposed to be addressed in the '05 model. Toyota establishing Lexus as a world market luxury company, rather than a select market one like Infiniti and Acura, is a great move on their part. It should allow them to move the brand further upmarket, supposedly they are considering the possibility of cars starting above $70K, as well as producing cars to compete with the C class and 3 series that are designed with total Lexus duty in mind.
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masc by lenscap
Apr 20, 2004 (5:57 am)
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The next GS will go on sale March 1, 2005 (not January 2005 as you indicated). But you are right that the IS will be available six months later, or right around early September.
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Dr. Fill by maxhonda99
Apr 20, 2004 (6:45 am)
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"So the LF-S MUST BE the next IS! It's too sporty to be the next LS. And Toyota has already leaked a coupe version will be added."
 
The LF-S is nothing! It will be nothing in the Lexus line. Why? Because it is purely a concept. Look at the proportions of the LF-S, they are totally not production feasible. The LF-S is probably 50" tall. What sedan on the market is 50" tall? The rake of the front and rear windshield's are soo severe nobody would have any headroom. And the trunklid is soo low, that the trunkspace is probably on 10cubic feet, if that.
 
And as lenscap said, if you see the pictures of the LF-S and 2006 GS side by side, there is a remarkable similarity.
 
"The '06 GS looks pretty derivative, of the '05 GS! So it confuses me when they say the NEW design direction started THERE."
 
Well, obviously they are going to create some sort of lineage with the previous generation GS. That's kind of the way in works in the luxury market-evolution, not revolution.
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IS News by lenscap
Apr 20, 2004 (10:38 am)
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There was a short article on the new IS in Automotive News. In the article Denny Clements (Lexus GM) said that most likely the next IS will not offer a V8 engine (even though the LF-C has one). More likely, he said, is a choice of small- and large-displacement six-cylinder engines much like BMW does with the 3 series.
 
In addition, Clements said the interior and engineering are firm, while the final exterior design is still being fine-tuned. Clements said the design can be polarizing because the rest of the lineup can be universal. The production version will arrive in late 2005 and will be launched globally in Japan, Europe and the U.S.
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by merc1
Apr 21, 2004 (12:39 am)
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The no V8 declaration is very interesting. The class in which the next IS will compete will be all V8 by the time the next IS debuts. The performance variants I mean. The S4 and soon to be released C55 AMG are V8s and the next M3/4 will have a V8 also. I know Lexi fans don't see the CTS-V as competition, but it does compete in this class, also with a V8.
 
I would have bet the farm on a V8 performance variant of the next IS simply because they've been fooling around with the "IS430" for quite a while now. If Lexus is serious about tackling the 3-Series they need a "M/AMG" version of the next IS.
 
But then again I see "most likely" in the wording of that statement. I'm still betting on a V8 hi-po variant.
 
M
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Merc by drfill
Apr 21, 2004 (7:21 am)
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Glad to see you "trolling" the Lexus boards! You're compliments are duly noted.
 
   Seems everyone is forgetting Lexus' Hybrid-laden future, jes?
 
   Particularly the IS and GS, performance variants will combine V6/Hybrid power to provide V8 performance with 4-banger economy.
 
   I think I heard that in a recent Lexus Press Release! Can anyone guess which model?
 
   I think the Auto Express rumor of a 400HP Lexus GS with 60 MPG is more fantasy than anything else, Lexus will get closer to that than anyone else!
 
   I wonder what the future holds for the Lexus V8? With new Hybrid technolgies, where does it go from here?
 
   MaxHonda
  
   Pure speculation on your part! I just sore the GS at the NYAS and it's rear window is so severly raked, it's practically a hatchback!
 
   The LF-S and GS have design similarities, but the styling of the GS pales in comparison! It's like comparing Julia Roberts to Lucille Roberts!
 
   Now I'm not trying to tear down the GS! But Lexus can do much better, that's the problem. They COULD make the LF-S!
 
   If the can build probably the greatest coupe design in the last 25 years with ballons, they can make the LF-S.
 
   People said the Camry platform couldn't spawn a RX300.....
 
   And if you make a sedan look that good, no one will care if it did have a 10 cube trunk!
 
   Thank You.
 
   DrFill (DIG)
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by maxhonda99
Apr 21, 2004 (7:26 am)
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Dr. Fill,
 
Come back to earth! lol!
 
"Now I'm not trying to tear down the GS! But Lexus can do much better, that's the problem. They COULD make the LF-S!
 
   If the can build probably the greatest coupe design in the last 25 years with ballons, they can make the LF-S."
 
Again, a 50" tall sedan. Who are you going to fit in it? midgets? Surely no one in this country of supersized people will fit in it!

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