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Dodge Charger, Dodge Charger SRT-8, Sedan
#547 of 1087 Re: HEMI [jimhemi]
Jul 26, 2005 (11:33 am)
Thanks for the link Jimhemi,
I have seen those pictures before. The engineering team that worked on the 2006 Dodge Charger wanted to go for something more modern, retro wasnít what they were going for. They wanted to pay homage to the muscle cars of the 60ís without retro styling. I canít comment of the 2009 Challenger as there has been no official word in regards to it at this point.
#548 of 1087 Re: Hello Everyone! [midnightcowboy]
Jul 26, 2005 (11:34 am)
Thanks for the great feedback Midnight Cowboy!
Not too many people are familiar with the subtle intricacies that make the 5-speed automatic with Autostick shine. To change back to the normal Drive gear you have to press and hold the selector lever in the ďD +Ē direction. The transmission will shift from the current gear directly to gear ďDĒ. I canít say for certain whether or not youíll find xenons and 20 inch rims as available options. You can find 20 inch rims for the 2006 Dodge Charger though. The SRT-8 vehicles come standard with 20 inch rims, so I would recommend talking to your local Dodge dealership about putting some 20ís on a new Charger. Well thatís all I got!
#549 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [aab4]
Jul 26, 2005 (12:56 pm)
Test drove the Charger RT, and it is great in a straight line.
I agree the quality of German cars, which includes the suspension and transmission, of the Charger, is not on par with the Japanese.
The interior of a Toyota Avalon, even a Ford Five Hundred is better than the Charger. Ford needs a Hemi though.
A loaded RT is in the mid 30's, so you are now approaching LEXUS IS, BMW 330 territory, although smaller than the Charger, much better handling, and execution.
Much better quality materials.
The Avalon loaded is in same price range, Mid 30ís, and is much better quality than The Charger.
If you really want a lot of room, and the quality, and handling is not as important,
and price is an issue, then Charger would be your cup of tea. With the Hemi, it is fun going from stop light to stop light, but throw it into a S curve, and the BMW runs circles around it.
#550 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [bee7]
Jul 26, 2005 (6:33 pm)
After the initial "shock and awe" wears off and there are more Chargers sitting on dealer lots, I think the Charger will have trouble competing in the $30k+ price range. Most people except for the diehard Mopar fans could care less about the Hemi engine. I think the Charger is a nice car, but I would never pay $30k+ for one. After all, it really is just another family sedan. Only time will tell if the Charger will survive in the marketplace.
#551 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [gmctruck]
Jul 27, 2005 (10:21 am)
I'm not a die hard Mopar fan. I would respectfully disagree with your assertion about not caring less about the Hemi. When I was checking out the 300C/Magnum RT models last year, that engine was the deal closer for me. The ability to have a 340 HP engine with the performance that comes with it in a family friendly sport wagon (that still gets 24 MPG on the highway) made the decision to purchase the Magnum a no-brainer for me. The utility, the performance, and the style for a bargain price makes all three Hemi models absolutely unmatched in the marketplace. I still love my GMC Envoy too, but it is for a totally different purpose (trailer towing & 4WD) than my Magnum.
#552 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [gmctruck]
Jul 27, 2005 (1:51 pm)
"Most people except for the diehard Mopar fans could care less about the Hemi engine."
Uh-huh, I suppose that explains why the Saltillo engine plant is running three shifts and why DC is investing another $70 million to boost production from 480,000 units per year to 520,000 by next year.
As I see things, one does not have to be a "diehard Mopar" fan to appreciate the power and efficiency of the modern Hemi. Correct me if I'm wrong, however, I don't think there is a single engine built anywhere in the world at any price that can yield the kind of specific power output of the Hemi AND return the fuel efficiency that the Hemi does when not being flogged.
#553 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [shipo]
Jul 28, 2005 (8:50 am)
I wouldn't buy a car just because it has a Hemi engine. I drove a Charger and it had decent power, but it wasn't spectacular. I think DC could have done more with the Charger had they used a more efficient exhaust system. I also believe the Charger is priced a bit too high to compete effectively in it's class.... Hemi or no Hemi. Don't get me wrong, the Charger is a nice set of wheels, but not for $30k+.
#554 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [gmctruck]
Jul 28, 2005 (9:13 am)
I sort of see your point with the price of the charger. I specifically looked for a base Rt when I was buying. . I got about $1500 off the list and I'm pleased as punch !!
#555 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [gmctruck]
Jul 28, 2005 (9:38 am)
Just curious, but what would you list as competitors that you think are better buys? Honestly, there's only one I can think of that I'd cross-shop against it, but its smaller and FWD. So, really, for its size and RWD, I'm having a hard time coming up with a strong competitor in my mind. Help me out here.
#556 of 1087 Re: acjoyal [qbrozen]
Jul 28, 2005 (11:08 am)
"Just curious, but what would you list as competitors that you think are better buys?"
Well I wouldn't necessarily say they were better buys, but more like less expensive. The Charger is being targeted and marketed as a family sedan. In that class, I would expect it to be priced in the mid to upper 20's price range. The fact that it has a Hemi with RWD makes no difference to me as a consumer looking to buy a new family car. I am shopping based on interior design, comfort, and how well the car handles under open road travel conditions. Oh I forgot, how well the AC works too!