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Dodge Charger, Dodge Charger SRT-8, Sedan
#229 of 1087 Some people just can't be satisfied
Feb 16, 2005 (5:34 am)
The last Dodge Daytona was a 2.2L FWD G-body, that made better 1/4 mile times falling from an airplane. I am having a hard time believing they did as good a job as they have with the new Charger. Sure, we may like it better with only 2 doors, but a simple fact that DCX has learned is that, in their case anyway, coupes don't sell. My sources tell me that any idea of there ever being a coupe version of the new Charger is nothing more than a pipe dream. So what? Have you ever been to Australia? I moved there for a while back in 1986, and the first thing I noticed was damn near every single car there had 4 doors. The hot rod Holdens had 4 doors, and even my roommates Ford Escort RS2000 had 4 doors, and that thing was a rocket!
I look at it this way; a Hemi powered Charger is a lot better than a Corolla with Nova badges on it. Besides, it's going to get better. The SRT boys have just completed their version of the Magnum. The 2006 Dodge Magnum SRT8 will be available in this country this summer, and will have, among it's many performance tweaks, a 370ci Hemi with 425 horsepower. This isn't a concept, it's reality. No one would have ever believed, even 5 years ago, that 2005 would see a 425hp Hemi station wagon. The best news, again, according to my sources, is that this same engine will be installed in an SRT Charger by this time next year. If we're really lucky, the SRT Charger will also get the rest of the AWD driveline as well.
I don't think anyone would have a viable reason to hang their heads in shame, just because the 425hp Hemi Charger has 4 doors instead of two.
"Does anybody know yet? I have been unable to find pricing"
The R/T will start at around $28k.
#230 of 1087 Re: Some people just can't be satisfied [pkrwud]
Feb 16, 2005 (3:55 pm)
"Sure, we may like it better with only 2 doors, but a simple fact that DCX has learned is that, in their case anyway, coupes don't sell"
No, not really. Overly high-priced, and/or de-contented and/or ill-conceived coupes don't sell. The neo-GTO proved that. Also, high-priced four-doors don't sell either, Mercury Marauder proved that. Many think that just because it's a coupe it won't sell, this is what killed the coupe, particularly the performance coupe market. No, what killed the coupe market was the constant rise in price. There is a 2dr coupe market out, but with the drive towards 4drs, this market is drying up. And in turn, we are forced to either get a 4-dr, or keep our 2-drs.
Again, just because a vehicle has a hot engine, a great name from the past, doesn't mean it's going to sell.
#231 of 1087 Re: Some people just can't be satisfied [jae5]
Feb 17, 2005 (5:53 am)
You do see enough 2 door Accords, Solaras, Monte Carlos, Gran Prixs, G35s and even Sebrings on the road to suggest that there is at least some market for them. The Solara and Monte Carlo are two of the lamest, ugliest cars available today and people still buy them.
Maybe if the Charger were a 2-door, it would draw in some incremental buyers instead of competing for sales against the 300 and Magnum. What is DCX gaining by cannibalizing sales?
#232 of 1087 Re: Some people just can't be satisfied [gsemike]
Feb 17, 2005 (1:57 pm)
Totally agree, my point exactly. There is a 2-dr market out there. Granted there are some 4-door cars that I like, but VERY few. The IS300, GS400, 94-96 Impala SS, 300C and a few others, but again, my main focus is on the 2dr market. Right now a 2-dr suits me just fine. Will there be a day when I "need" a 4-dr, sure, but it won't be a bastardized reincarnation of a past 2dr coupe.
I just get a little upset when the "there's no 2-dr market" phrase is used when a company stops making a coupe.
As stated b4, we all pretty much knew Dodge was going to have a version of this platform, but to call it Charger, Daytona, or R/T, is a G-D shame.
#233 of 1087 Re: Some people just can't be satisfied [pkrwud]
Mar 10, 2005 (10:48 am)
I recently found a range on a website 23K-31K.
#234 of 1087 What killed the couple
Mar 15, 2005 (6:27 am)
Was the rise in price year after year. What normal person can afford to pay $35K for a Mustang Cobra? Why not up your social status not to mention reliability with a Lexus, Acura, or BMW? People want more features and creature comforts, such as adjustable, heated cup holders to keep your coffee warmer longer. They need heated leather seats and the ability to open car windows with the key fob. Traction control too, because we've forgotten the timeless art of pedaling the car off the line.
#235 of 1087 Re: stickguy [rorr]
Mar 15, 2005 (2:57 pm)
Its not the same thing as a Intrepid, there is a big difference! Last time I looked the Intrepid didnt offer a HEMI under the hood.
#236 of 1087 ok there was an ebay auction of a god awful ungly charger on feb 10th
Mar 24, 2005 (6:17 pm)
so what did it bring.