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No word whether they will have nosecones or wings like the Daytonas, but this report says that we will see what they look like on the track in February. Can't wait! http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0407/19/c01-215232.htm |
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i have a question. How do you think the Charger is going to sell compared to the 300. Will the "Charger" nameplate give it more sales or what?
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A lot depends on the usual things like styling, pricing, competitive models like the 300 and Magnum, etc. Apart from a few of us fanatics, the Charger nameplate has little brand equity. The last Charget was a pathetic little Omni 024 derivative (the Shelby Chargers were entertaining), and if you ignore the Cordoba-derived 75-78 models, the last REAL Charger was made 30 years ago in 1970. That doesn't mean that effective marketing can bring it back -- the 300 is now fairly well known, but I think this knowledge is based on the current and recent models, not the 1955-65 "Letter cars". Strong styling, the hemi and hard-hitting marketing (including the NASCAR tie-in) could knock this one out of the park. Even though I hate the idea, making it a 4-door will probably help sales over a 2-door.
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Replying to: odman (Jul 22, 2004 3:25 am) OTOH: Even when I knew a lot about the new 300C, I still would not have predicted the apparent sales success of this new sedan. It will certainly be interesting to see the final, production product. RE: 4 doors – “Even though I hate the idea, making it a 4-door will probably help sales over a 2-door.” The previous generation Grand Prix did (IMHO) a wonderful job of offering both a 2 door and 4 door with exactly the same, very ‘coupe-ish’ roofline. My personal bias is that, if there are rear seats that full size humans can comfortably occupy for any time, they deserve their own doors for access. But that’s just me. And the original Charger (Yup, I am old enough to remember) styling, inside and out, was absolutely amazing to me, particularly since it was then largely based on the relatively pedestrian sedan body. Cheers, - Ray Watching to see what takes shape . . .
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I agree about the Grand Prix but found the overall design too rounded for my tastes. The last Intrepid did a good job of making a 4-door look rakish. The 1999 Charger concept car did as good a job as we can expect in terms of blending retro cues with a modern 4-door body style. The front-end was a bit clunky though. While they were apparently not that efficient, the original '68-'70 grilles looked like they were sucking in air like mad. For me the '68-'70s were the epitome of Charger design (the '66-'67s were more functional but not as sleek, and the '71-74s were a bit bloated). Stylistically, the key was the double-diamond arches over the front and rear wheels. It gave it a very taut, masculine look. Along with this, the trapezoidal side glass profile balanced well between the diamonds. The large C-pillar sail planes with a deeply in-set rear window were especially nice and could easily be incorporated in the new design. Nissan has done it very well with a more shallow inset with the new Maxima: http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/i/4ma/4maxima_gal_med01.jpg I've heard they are only going to be doing a few retro cues, and I'm afraid we will wind up with something that looks heavy and chunky like the 300C or the Magnum. A may be in the minority, but I'd much rather see a retro vehicle like Ford has done very well with their Mustang. Then we could see a modern-day Bullitt movie re-made!
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Replying to: odman (Jul 23, 2004 3:29 am) I think the 99 concept was/is brilliant in it's ability to blend functionality of four doors with coupe-like styling, and the retro cues were expressed so well that you knew exactly from whence they came but still felt like you were getting fresh goods. Clunky front end, yes, but certainly nowhere near as clunky as a Magnum's Ram-nose! '68-'70: for me it's that long muscular swoop of the rear quarters in combination with the rake of the rear glass. This one of very, very few square tails I've ever liked. My fear that what we'll end up with is a 300C with new fascias and that honkin' Ram snout, plus maybe more pronounced flared wheel arches. I hope not... |
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Anybody have any idea on how much these 2006 Chargers are gonna be? I heard from a Dodge dealer starting at about $23,000. Are they 2 door or 4 door and do they have hideaway headlights? -Lance
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To me the 99 concept car front end is almost a carbon copy of the Intrepid. And since the Intrepid wasn't exactly the finest car ever produced (or worst either!) using the name again wasn't a good idea. The Charger name is old enough so that if folks had bad experiences with the original charger maybe time has healed the old wounds. I had a Concorde (Intrepid cousin) and it was not inspiring in any way except for quickness off the line with the 3.5 motor back then. The 2006 coupe version based on the LX chassis sketched out by Hot Rod is a very modernized version of the original coke bottle shape. To me it looks like a GTO killer if it has the Hemi.. Lots of pizzaz without the juke box... |
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| I got my Car and Driver magazine yesterday and the Charger is on the front cover. Don't get too excited though, it is a drawing based on spy cam pictures and rumors. According to the article it will come with a choice of a 3.5L 250 HP V6 or the 5.7L 340 HP Hemi V8. The Hemi version will have a 5-speed manumatic transmission designed by Mercedes and will do (estimated performance) 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. There are not pop up lights and it is a four door. | |
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Replying to: setzer (Jul 21, 2004 1:11 pm) My 71 is Hemi Orange with a black top. I'm not only a fan of the 1999 concept(except for the 4 doors) I'm also a fan of bringing back some of the high impact colors that Chrysler made famous. Give me an 2006 Charger SRT in Hemi Orange with a 6speed, black leather and a 4.10 rear. Help me stop with some 15 inch Brembo ABS brakes. Give the car some nice wheels and don't weigh the performance of the car down with Electric seats,moon roofs, heated leather and all that fancy euro trash crap. I hope it's not to late. I hope some reps from Chrylser read our rants and suggestions. |
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