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Dodge Charger, Dodge Charger SRT-8, Sedan
Jan 15, 2005 (11:40 pm)
Well the more I hear about the new "Charger", the more I hate it.
Like I said before, I own three REAL Chargers, a '66 with a 440, a '67 with a 383, and a '68 R/T.
The only Charger in my mind that has ever been truly and fully entitled to wear the Charger nameplate, is the 1966.
After that, they gained a few little cool things here and there, but overall they went downhill.
So to make a new car in a muscular image, and to be able to call it a "Charger", Dodge should have incorporated design aspects that stuck with what made a Charger of the musclecar era, when it was still a good car.
That means it should have had these things, the best things of the musclecar era Dodge Charger:
Hidden headlights (1966-1972)
Four bucket seats(1966)
A full length center console(1966)
Awesome looking dash gauges (1966-1967)
A flip top gas cap (1968-1970)
Sexy and distintive styling (1966-1972)
Two doors (1966-1974)
Performance V8 with RWD (1966-1971)
And how many of these things does the 2006 "Charger" have? Just one, the performance.
That's just being lazy on Dodge's part. They choose to be lazy and to turn their backs on people who have bought their products.
A fairly competent person can tell you that they should have used a different name. But no, instead they chose to screw the diehard fans, so they could rape/pillage the once honorable name, in the name of easy sales.
It is a rebadged Intrepid. Plain and simple. A car for family guys, soccer moms, and old people. All those who like it are unfaithfuls who have turned their back on the true Dodge Charger.
I hope the car crashes and burns.
#156 of 1087 Old Charger with new "Charger"
Jan 16, 2005 (1:00 am)
Here are some more pictures for comparison, the wannabe "Charger" versus the real Charger...
#157 of 1087 Re: [fastback1966]
Jan 16, 2005 (10:28 am)
Hey Fastback1966! First off you got some mean machines there! Secondly I was waiting for someone to do a side by side comparison of the new and the old. It shows even more just how pathetic Dodge's attempt was to design the "new charger" More power to you and you Chargers. Long life to them because they are precious and beautiful. It just goes to show that the general public, The good American people that make these companies who they are are not stupid and we are not blind. We hear you man! There is no substitute for the Old King! As Far as I am concerned they could drop a 1000HP Hemi into the new charger It is still a 4 door car version of a Dodge Ram and a magnum stationwagon.
Jan 16, 2005 (1:14 pm)
Hey thanks. Another big thing that the new Chargers will lack is the coolness aspect.
When driving my old Chargers people love them, I get lots of stares, thumbs up, smiles, rubbernecking, etc. That is one of the most fun things about driving the old Charger, no matter what kind of horsepower it has, even if it has a 318.
The new Charger will not generate this kind of interest from people when you drive it around because it is not interesting. The design style is boring, and it looks like a grocery getter.
Again, Dodge was way off the mark with the styling, as I have shown. And again, I hope the car goes down in flames, and a few responsible people get fired for it.
#159 of 1087 A defense (sort of)
Jan 16, 2005 (2:56 pm)
I agree with a lot of what has been said, with a few exceptions.
1) Hidden headlights are passe (witness the new Corvette)
2) There is some resemblance to the 66 in the side and 3/4 rear views.
3) 2-doors are just not selling enough to justify a new model.
4) They shouldn't have called this car Charger. The best name is probably Intrepid, since it is not really a retro design.
#160 of 1087 Re: A defense (sort of) [ambull]
Jan 16, 2005 (8:17 pm)
" 4) They shouldn't have called this car Charger. The best name is probably Intrepid, since it is not really a retro design. "
That would NOT be fair the the Intrepid, which was really a slick looking design. Front, side and behind, all views looked much more sporty in the Intrepid design in comparison to the Charger / 300. As for the '66 Charger, my bet is that the last years of the Charger are what most people consider as the best style wise and thus would like to see once again in some retro/modern version. I liked the Corvette with the hidden lights, and find it attractive on most sports cars. On larger cars, it can work, but it would look rather silly on a truck front like the new Charger will have.
#161 of 1087 Re: other names perhaps [andyman73]
Jan 17, 2005 (7:07 am)
"Magnum" was used on a number of big-block wedge Mopar motors in the sixties and seventies (383-440). It was also a Dodge car model in the seventies sharing the same platform as the Chrysler Cordoba.
In '63-66 there was a 361 Commando in the Dodge 880 and Polara series. I think there was a 383 Commando in '61-62 Dodge and Plymouth cars.
#162 of 1087 Charger cruisers
Jan 17, 2005 (9:57 am)
After seeing the Charger at the Los Angeles auto show, it is evident to me that that sucker is not going to sell on styling - it is a homely beast. However, I think the Hemi model would make a great police car, and I'm sure the Dodge boys have had the same thoughts.
I've read that DCX was considering introducing a police package for the Magnum. However, I have sat in a couple of Magnums and the rear visibility appears to be compromised because of the pinched rear windows. The boys in blue need a clear 360 degree view while watching for evildoers, and the Charger provides this better than the Magnum.
As well as police package Magnums, I expect there will also be taxi packages. I think this vehicle could put a big dent in Crown Victoria sales in these two areas.
Jan 17, 2005 (7:49 pm)
Expect to see these supposed 4 door Muscle Cars in fleets as dodge announced the small six cylinder will be avail for fleet sales in the ..."Magnum Sedan".
I guess they will have to sell them as taxis since the car replaces the front wheel drive Intrepid, and most folks seem to think it's ugly.
Maybe the fleet car will be called Coronet, as to not further drag the Charger name through the mud.
#164 of 1087 side by side
Jan 18, 2005 (6:51 am)
I love the old styling, but guys at the risk of being flamed...I love the new one too. Other than the obvious 4 doors and the front fascia, the silhouette is darn close. I for one would seriously purchase this Charger. The side by side comparison actually kinda really peaked my interest...so thanks for that.
And just to let you guys know, I'm 39, own my business, drive a 5 series BMW. But my other auto is a 66 New Yorker with a 440...love that beast, just don't want to drive my family in it...