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Re: MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top demand? [blueguydotcom] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2006 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Aug 13, 2006 9:27 pm)

name a car company that actually sells their vehicles at or near MSRP for anything longer then 6 months? Honda no, those are given away. Toyota, nope, given away as well. Any American vehicle besides the Vette and Mustang? Nope. Not even Lexus or Acura are sold at MSRP. I have a friend that works for a BMW dealership, and even those are given away close to invoice!!
 
I'm a dealer and I believe MSRP is a ficticous number. Of course, I am going to always try and sell a vehicle at the number, that's my job, but, it is tough to do ,unless it is a vehicle of high demand.
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Re: MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top demand? [aviboy97] by blueguydotcom
Aug 14, 2006 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2006 6:57 am)

I love mazdas but compared to the big dogs like Lexus, toyota, honda, it's nigh impossible for them to sell at close to msrp. Hell, the Mazdaaspeed6 started on dealer lots with 2500 dealer cash (lease the car, then buyout the lease).
 
I believe compared to other japanese makes, Mazdas have a much tougher time selling at msrp. That's been my experience when shopping for myself and others. Below invoice is often within the realm of possibility for Mazda.
 
Regardless, it looks like the RHT will be 2400 more in the UK but that comes with extra packaging too. Hopefully that'll mean less than a 2k bump for the RHT in the USA.
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Re: MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top demand? [aviboy97] by gputz
Aug 14, 2006 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2006 6:57 am)

name a car company that actually sells their vehicles at or near MSRP for anything longer then 6 months?
 
MINI has been a big exception, but I get your point. I guess it comes down to those with patience usually getting the better deal. I'm just trying to speculate if this WILL be a high demand vehicle, and if so, for how long. Even after the initial novelty wears off, I imagine this will still be something of a lower volume niche car. Purists will stay away because it isn't a "rag" top, but cold winter regions may have a lot of interest...people like me. The unanswerable question is whether or not the demand will be greater than supply over the long-term. That's all that matters.
 
It's like trying to time the stock market. Some people guess right and make a profit; others buy at the wrong time and lose money.
 
We're probably talking a difference of $2k or so from initial peak to the discounted lifecycle so we'll have to decide if it's worth risking "overpaying" about that much.
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Re: MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top demand? [blueguydotcom] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2006 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Aug 14, 2006 8:26 am)

With the pricing I have received from Mazda, it is about a $2K bump in price for each trim level.
 
It probably will sell at MSRP for quite some time, but, this is the car business, ya never know what will happen...
 
I do happen to agree with selling Mazda's a lower price to compete with other Jap brands to some extent. One reason in Honda/Toyota are recognized brands, and people will walk into a dealership and just pick out a color, and sign papers. Here at Mazda, we have to work a bit harder for the sale, because Mazda is not as well known. Mazda makes great cars, but, they are very small. Every deal comes down to dollars and cents, and if selling low makes them go, then that is what we will do.
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Re: MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top demand? [aviboy97] by manybmws
Aug 14, 2006 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2006 11:14 am)

Hey folks - the HT has no roadster competition until the high $40s with an SLK. This will push the price higher if the demand is there. VW EOS is interesting but not as sports oriented.
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Good scheme to drive demand - in the UK at least by manybmws
Aug 14, 2006 (4:32 pm)
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https://www.mx5roadstercoupe.co.uk/customer/home.asp?flash=1
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RHT - Decided to wait... by gputz
Aug 15, 2006 (8:04 am)
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I've decided to wait for at least a few months before considering a RHT. I am interested in the GT model with suspension and Premium pkgs and at MSRP, the price is just too high. Bottom line, this will approach $31k and I think that may be a difficult price point to maintain for this car.
 
I also read a review that highlighted the significant changes made to the car to support the RHT. This is much more than just a power roof.
 
The top opening had to be enlarged to allow the new mechanism and this weakened the body structure. Additional body reinforcements had to be specified. F/R balance and center of mass points have changed and the suspension was reworked to compensate. The reviewer praised the effort but said the feel of the RHT is somewhat "less brisk" and "more refined". I'm sure it's very close to the soft top, but I expect those looking for a no compromise sports car will not be drawn to the RHT. This car may attract new customers who prefer style and function over driving experience.
 
I think waiting until early next year (middle of winter here) will be a better time to buy... I'll find out!
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Good deal - RHT for 24k by blueguydotcom
Aug 16, 2006 (6:18 pm)
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24k for the base Mazda RHT? Nice! If one can live with the normal headlights, that's a 22-23k hardtop convertible.
 
Add on the xenon package and you're at maybe 27-28k before normal discounts. Wow.
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/16/mazda-announces-u-s-pricing-for-mx-5-power-re- tractable-hard-top/
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Re: RHT - Decided to wait... [gputz] by manybmws
Aug 17, 2006 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: gputz (Aug 15, 2006 8:04 am)

If this is a year round car - then the HT is the way to go in the Boston area.
 
If not - the inventory is up for the 06s. Double what I have seen since May. So it may be possible to pick up a GT for 23K right now. Also, the 06s have a 4-year versus the 07's 3-year warranty. Pay less - get more.
 
If I was going to spend $32K on one of these babies - I would hold out for a Mazdaspeed version. But in the meantime the ragtop GT can keep you happy until such a car exists.
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Re: RHT - Decided to wait... [manybmws] by aviboy97
Aug 19, 2006 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: manybmws (Aug 17, 2006 3:52 pm)

Also, the 06s have a 4-year versus the 07's 3-year warranty. Pay less - get more.
 
The 2007 warranty also includes a 5yr-60K engine power train warranty, as opposed to 2006 of 4yr-50.

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