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Replying to: soonerdog (Jan 24, 2008 4:46 pm) I had a lot of the same thoughts when too the FJC out for a test drive over a year ago. You are right, the only thing it really has in common with the original FJ is the name. The FJs you owned were true off-road machines that could be built up with very little cost to be killer crawlers, or bogger. The diesel FJs were even more suited to the true trail driver. There is no doubt Toyota is missing out on a solid long term market by not producing something like the original FJ. What they did with the new FJC reminds my a lot of what Chrysler did in the 80's by bringing out a front wheel drive with a 2.2L four cylinder engine and calling it a Charger. I think you will be a lot closer to your original FJ's performance and potential if you pick the Rubicon. The locking front and back axles will impress you, beyond what the old Jeep CJs and old FJs could do back in the day too.
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Replying to: fourx4ever (Jan 25, 2008 7:48 am) |
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As the title says, I am going to buy a Wrangler, but first, I want to talk to people who have bought wranglers in the past. here are my main questions: 1) I drive a 2005 Dodge Neon SXT, 5-speed manual, and I have never driven a manual SUV. Is it much different than that of a sports car? 2) Pros and Cons of the 2007-2008 Wrangler? 3) We also own a 2005 Jeep liberty, Special Edition, 3.7L 4X4, 5-speed manual. Does the 2008 Wrangler drive anything like the 2005 Liberty? Please answer ASAP!
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Replying to: jeepboy08 (Feb 01, 2008 5:24 am) The pros: World class best off-road ability, A convertible with a soft top and a hard top if you order it as such. A 6 point roll cage which enhances safety on and off road. The only 4-door convertible currently being produced, again if you order the 4-door. Very good visibility for on and off-road precision driving. Cons: It has a V6 - the old Wranglers had a much better In-Line 6, however rumors are that a nice little diesel is on the way for next year. It will not be as comfortable as many cars for 4 and 5 hour road trips. I have not spent much time behind the wheel of a Liberty, however I think you will find the Wrangler quite a bit different. Obviously even the 4-door wrangler is different from the 2-door. Best thing to do is go test drive a 2-door and a 4-door. And pick the one that best suits your needs. I would highly recommend the Rubicon package. For the little bit of extra money you get a lot of off-road goodies that will cost literally about 5 times the money to add on later.
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Replying to: fourx4ever (Feb 01, 2008 8:15 am) (he wants two-door)
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Replying to: jeepboy08 (Feb 01, 2008 9:13 am) First of all, your son is very lucky. My Dad has an '05 Liberty CRD Limited and it drives great as you know. I have a '97 with 153k miles and an '00 Wrangler Sport with 104k miles, both TJ's with the simply bullet proof 4.0 l I-6. I rented an '08 Wrangler X, the new JK, for a week when I was on vacation and was so impressed with it that I had to check the Jeep site to see what the differences were. Every iteration of the Wrangler/CJ improves dramatically in on road manners and off road characteristics. It drives like a truck, but the coil over suspension is forgiving unlike the leaf springs of the YJ and older and the vehicle did not wander a bit. The new JK X model you're looking at is outfitted with several of the goods that the previous generation TJ Rubicon was. The front differential is the newly revised Dana 30 and rear differentials have been beefed up on the base Wangler to the legendary Dana 44 bone stock! The new Rubicon is simply amazing, but at nearly 30k it's a bit pricey and its resale will take a noticeably larger initial hit vs a Wrangler X. I guess it's because that Rubicon means business and everyone knows it's going to have a fun life. For a beginner driver, I would not recommend the Rubicon as a starter vehicle. It's a little too much truck for someone that young. Remember, the more capable it is the further off road you get stuck, haha. I recommend getting the X. If in a few years you still want the Rubicon, sell your X for a surprisingly high resale and pick up an '08 Rubicon for about $10k less than when it was new and someone was already courteous enough to break it in a little for you  . It's win- freakin win. I'd like to add that my bone stock '00 TJ is amazingly capable and can readily keep up with my modified '97 even if it has to work a little harder to do it. The Wrangler will amaze you! I hope that helps a little. Good luck with your purchase! (I agree, stick to two doors)
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Replying to: islatas (Feb 01, 2008 11:11 pm) I love the liberty, drives like a dream. 
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Replying to: jeepboy08 (Feb 02, 2008 8:07 am) There is an electronically controlled locking rear diff available for about $800, but think long and hard about the kind of wheeling you plan on doing and whether you can justify that extra cost. In general, all the options available are cheaper when installed by Jeep at the factory than you could buy and install yourself. However, if you add enough of these features you'll be in Rubicon price range before you know it. |
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Replying to: islatas (Feb 02, 2008 9:45 pm)
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Replying to: islatas (Feb 02, 2008 9:45 pm) anyway, a quick lesson would be appreicated. I've Googled it to death, and I still can't find the exact differences between the X trim and the Sport and the Sahara. I know the Rubi has the upgraded axles. I have a chance at an '06 X w/ 20K on it for 13.5K, but what am I getting? I thought I read where the Sport has upgraded axles, also. Any info would sure help. thanx much.
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